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Windows 11: Removing bypassnro Script to Enhance Security and User Experience
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- optimiz3 2y agoFor the uninformed, bypassnro was how you installed Windows 11 (anonymously?) and with full local control without a Microsoft account. To save a Ctrl-F: [Other] We’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script from the build to enhance security and user experience of Windows 11. This change ensures that all users exit setup with internet connectivity and a Microsoft Account.
- skeeter2020 2y agoI've come up with two possible conclusions: 1. Microsoft doesn't want me as a customer - despite being a developer in their ecosystem for 20+ years - because I don't want a Copilot-powered PC, don't buy their services and won't push my computer to a subscription model they own. 2. MS is a really big company and the parts that are still doing good dev-centric work have been crowded out by the consumer-oriented business, where the OS is just a means to pushing AI and cloud everything. The reality doesn't really matter as I don't see how I can buy another windows machine when the desktop I'm using becomes unsupported in a few months, despite running triple-A games fine and being my development driver every day. I can't believe this was the goal and I'd bet their are people inside MS who are really disappointed with their direction, but hey - everyone is getting rich, so YOLO!
- bigyabai 2y ago> Microsoft doesn't want me as a customer Well, assuming you're right, when do you walk away? We always come upon this inflection point where profits are prioritized over user experience. And users always threaten to leave, but never actually have any leverage. The Windows users are all invested in their Valorant and Microsoft Store purchases the same way Apple pundits can't threaten to walk away with $1,000+ invested in the software ecosystem. Microsoft doesn't want you, but you sure seem to want Microsoft. If we accept that commercialized operating systems objectively suck, we can skip this whinging. There aren't any engineers at Microsoft waiting for their pager to light up so they can stop making bad software.
- M95D 2y ago> Microsoft doesn't want me as a customer You're right. The main customers are companies. Your employer will buy it for you!
- p_ing 2y agoNote that they indicate they're removing the script, not the registry value the script sets. This means bypassnro should continue to work.
- cosmotic 2y agoAt least one person at Microsoft either doesn't know what "user experience" means or they are being dishonest about it.
- jmclnx 2y agoForgot they are putting Copilot in Windows too. Between that and the thing where Windows takes screen prints of what you are doing (forgot its marketing name), why would people use it.
- daveoc64 2y agoYou can disable that feature if you don't want it.
- bigyabai 2y ago"Yes, the Torment Nexus comes enabled by default but with the following terminal command you can make your computer act like normal." I feel like this has become the defacto excuse for abhorrent software design nowadays. Like a learned helplessness, of sorts.
- skeeter2020 2y agoyou can't get rid of a dedicated hardware button though, even if you set it to do nothing.
- lawn 2y agoThis thread is about Windows removing a feature, what makes you think they won't do the same with Copilot?
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- ThatMedicIsASpy 2y agoThis is the only reason I accept installing windows 11 on a device. I will no longer support anyone in my family from now on with Windows. Goodbye and good luck. Can't wait… in a year every local account will be forced to log in :)
- CatWChainsaw 2y agoYou were downvoted, but once this is fully closed it's obvious they'll remove local account creation entirely within a year.
- gostsamo 2y agocan you remove the copilot, ad tracking, unnecessary widgets, teams, one drive, candy crush, xbox, and all other trash together with this? removing most shit from Windows11 makes it a pleasant os to use actually.
- skeeter2020 2y agocongratulations, you've just made windows 7, 2025 edition.
- gostsamo 2y agoI don't mind reaching xp, but the corporate overlords didn't let me go further. :D
- velcrovan 2y agoI’ve been a Windows user for 30 years and a Mac user for 15 years so I see both sides of this. I think you can set up a new Mac without an Apple ID but an Apple ID has been a core part of the Apple ecosystem for so long that it feels silly not to use one. At the same time with Microsoft attempting to do the same thing it just feels janky and something I’d much rather skip.
- bigyabai 2y agoThe reason it feels silly to not use an Apple ID is because Apple will create un-dismissable nag indicators in Settings and elsewhere begging you to log in for iCloud functionality.
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- velcrovan 2y agoI’ve never tried it so I’ll take your word for it. To me the reason it feels silly is because iCloud functionality is really good.
- bigyabai 2y agoTo me the reason it feels silly is because iCloud is a paid subscription service and I am constantly advertised it even when using something like Syncthing or Nextcloud to provide equivalent support.
- 486sx33 2y agoSort of but 1. You can still have an OS without an Apple ID, it just sucks 2. When you buy an Apple device, you did the research and know “the deal”. Microsoft doesn’t market devices that way, they want to work on every device and control it at the software level. 3. I trust Apple more, they are somewhat regularly in trouble for not giving out the keys to my data. When’s the last time Microsoft fought the FBI for access to a surface device ?
- ChrisArchitect 2y ago[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43511073 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43511073