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Just one of many news media reporting about it: https://usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/14/elon-musk-hitler-federal-workers/82402023007/ https://usat

Just one of many news media reporting about it: https://usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/14/elon-musk-hitler-federal-workers/82402023007/ https://usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/14/elon-mus... Elon is part of the government who are committed to carry out the project 2025 agenda which was devised by the heritage foundation. Their aim is to destroy democratic institutions. They are now trying to find how to let Trump have a third term. Look up what Elon is doing in Wisconsin, bribing voters to get a judge replaced. If you can’t see the damage currently being done by the Trump admin, then please do your research. To be an informed citizen requires more than writing ‘citation needed’.

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        uxcolumbo 2y ago
        There is nothing ad hominem here. It was a simple question: do you trust a pathological liar, i.e. Trump over any of the other folks I mentioned, who don't have a history of pathological lying. And what I mentioned are documented facts, not assumptions. Let me list some for your convenience: Fact: Trump is a convicted felon Here is just one source of many listing his crimes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/article/tracking-trump-investigations-and-lawsuits/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/article/tracking-tr... Fact: He lied when he said he knew nothing about project 2025 He gave a speech to the Heritage Foundation in 2022 praising the formation of plans for Project 2025 https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-video-project-2025-colossal-mandate/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-video-project-2025-c... Fact: Trump is following Project's 2025 plan to defund science https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00780-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00780-2 Argument: Under his leadership federal institutions are dismantled, harming Americans and the democratic future of America. The blueprint is clearly laid in the project 2025 plan. He hired the architect for Project 2025 to lead the OMB, which holds a lot of power. https://apnews.com/article/trump-russell-vought-confirmation-budget-project-2025-7d1c476694176876256e95cecbd49231 https://apnews.com/article/trump-russell-vought-confirmation... And one of the director of Project 2025 also praised Trump for implementing the agenda: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/03/16/project-2025-paul-dans-qa-00228890 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/03/16/project-20... But I understand you won't accept any of these facts, since the first party source (i.e. Trump) didn't actually confirm any of these facts for you. So there is no point continuing this discussion. Nothing will convince you that Trump is a catastrophe for America.
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- UltraSane 2y ago
  Trump is a very dishonest man. You should not believe anything he says.
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  - ein0p 2y ago
    He's literally the only politician in my lifetime who does exactly what he said he was going to do. Except for the obvious troll comments like the "third term".
    - root_axis 2y ago
      Why do you believe it is an obvious troll?
    - UltraSane 2y ago
      People like you must get scammed a lot.
arandomusername 2y ago
> “Stalin, Mao, and Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Their public sector employees did.” Clearly disingenuous reporting. He's saying they didn't kill them directly (true), not that they are not responsible. Another way to read it, is that the people who carried out the killings are also to be blamed, not just the guy who gave the order. Also, why, out of that quote, did you only single out the holocaust? Stalin and Mao both have killed considerably more than the holocaust, so why did you only focus on "claiming Hitler wasn’t responsible for the Holocaust"? > They are now trying to find how to let Trump have a third term. Bullshit and you know it. There's nothing to support this. > Look up what Elon is doing in Wisconsin, bribing voters to get a judge replaced. Is it that much different than what all the lobbying groups do? AIPAC or George Soros? Sure they may not bribe voters directly, but they spend billions on lobbying for their side, to a high degree of success. > If you can’t see the damage currently being done by the Trump admin, then please do your research. Only damage I see is the one to my stocks and crypto. > To be an informed citizen requires more than writing ‘citation needed’. If you are going to make a wild claim, it's on you to provide evidence.
- uxcolumbo 2y ago
  > Clearly disingenuous reporting. He's saying they didn't kill them directly (true), not that they are not responsible. Why is he comparing Fed workers to Hitler's minions in the first place? Is he trying to say Fed workers are complicit in a major crime committed against humanity. > Bullshit and you know it. There's nothing to support this. So Steve Bannon is lying? > Only damage I see is the one to my stocks and crypto What about cuts to the VA, impacting thousands of veterans? And don't you think ignoring the rule of law harms our democracy? Don't you think alienating our allies harms us. Don't you think cutting USAID funding and losing our soft power will Don't you think spreading lies after lies to divide the nation will harm democracy? Anyway, since you seem to be OK with how things are going, what would you say to folks who are worried about America's future - to calm them down? How will the life of Americans improve under Trump v2.0?
  - arandomusername 2y ago
    > Why is he comparing Fed workers to Hitler's minions in the first place? Is he trying to say Fed workers are complicit in a major crime committed against humanity. My interpretation of the tweet is that the workers are responsible for what they do and following orders is not a valid excuse. I have no idea why he would bring that up with in regards to fed workers. You have to really reach to think he meant Hitler wasn't responsible for the holocaust (again, why did you only bring up the holocaust out of the three names?). Not to mention that Elon is a puppet of the Jews. Ben Shapiro literally led him like a dog through auschwitz. Trump, the one he helped get elected, extremely pro Israel and is surrounded by pro-Israel/Jewish members. > So Steve Bannon is lying? Maybe? I don't care for what he says. His word is as valuable as dirt to me. > What about cuts to the VA, impacting thousands of veterans? Don't they only want to cut employees? And VA has 482k employees, unbelievable number. > And don't you think ignoring the rule of law harms our democracy? I think blocking the democratically elected president from enacting the things he run on, harms your democracy. > Don't you think alienating our allies harms us. Short term hurt, long term benefit to all. As an EU citizen, I will be glad to get rid of US influence here, as it's nothing but DEI, wokism and pro-Israel agenda. > Don't you think spreading lies after lies to divide the nation will harm democracy? Like the 51 officials that signed the biden laptop thing? Both sides lie through their teeth consistently. > Anyway, since you seem to be OK with how things are going, what would you say to folks who are worried about America's future - to calm them down? Touch grass. > How will the life of Americans improve under Trump v2.0? Realistically, it won't change for shit. Just like it barely did under Trump v1.0, or Biden, or Obama. If you are an Israeli though, your life might improve.

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        There is nothing ad hominem here. It was a simple question: do you trust a pathological liar, i.e. Trump over any of the other folks I mentioned, who don't have a history of pathological lying. And what I mentioned are documented facts, not assumptions. Let me list some for your convenience: Fact: Trump is a convicted felon Here is just one source of many listing his crimes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/article/tracking-trump-investigations-and-lawsuits/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/article/tracking-tr... Fact: He lied when he said he knew nothing about project 2025 He gave a speech to the Heritage Foundation in 2022 praising the formation of plans for Project 2025 https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-video-project-2025-colossal-mandate/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-video-project-2025-c... Fact: Trump is following Project's 2025 plan to defund science https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00780-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00780-2 Argument: Under his leadership federal institutions are dismantled, harming Americans and the democratic future of America. The blueprint is clearly laid in the project 2025 plan. He hired the architect for Project 2025 to lead the OMB, which holds a lot of power. https://apnews.com/article/trump-russell-vought-confirmation-budget-project-2025-7d1c476694176876256e95cecbd49231 https://apnews.com/article/trump-russell-vought-confirmation... And one of the director of Project 2025 also praised Trump for implementing the agenda: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/03/16/project-2025-paul-dans-qa-00228890 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/03/16/project-20... But I understand you won't accept any of these facts, since the first party source (i.e. Trump) didn't actually confirm any of these facts for you. So there is no point continuing this discussion. Nothing will convince you that Trump is a catastrophe for America.
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UltraSane 2y ago
Trump is a very dishonest man. You should not believe anything he says.
- fashion-at-cost 2y ago
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- ein0p 2y ago
  He's literally the only politician in my lifetime who does exactly what he said he was going to do. Except for the obvious troll comments like the "third term".
  - root_axis 2y ago
    Why do you believe it is an obvious troll?
  - UltraSane 2y ago
    People like you must get scammed a lot.

arandomusername 2y ago

> “Stalin, Mao, and Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Their public sector employees did.” Clearly disingenuous reporting. He's saying they didn't kill them directly (true), not that they are not responsible. Another way to read it, is that the people who carried out the killings are also to be blamed, not just the guy who gave the order. Also, why, out of that quote, did you only single out the holocaust? Stalin and Mao both have killed considerably more than the holocaust, so why did you only focus on "claiming Hitler wasn’t responsible for the Holocaust"? > They are now trying to find how to let Trump have a third term. Bullshit and you know it. There's nothing to support this. > Look up what Elon is doing in Wisconsin, bribing voters to get a judge replaced. Is it that much different than what all the lobbying groups do? AIPAC or George Soros? Sure they may not bribe voters directly, but they spend billions on lobbying for their side, to a high degree of success. > If you can’t see the damage currently being done by the Trump admin, then please do your research. Only damage I see is the one to my stocks and crypto. > To be an informed citizen requires more than writing ‘citation needed’. If you are going to make a wild claim, it's on you to provide evidence.

uxcolumbo 2y ago
> Clearly disingenuous reporting. He's saying they didn't kill them directly (true), not that they are not responsible. Why is he comparing Fed workers to Hitler's minions in the first place? Is he trying to say Fed workers are complicit in a major crime committed against humanity. > Bullshit and you know it. There's nothing to support this. So Steve Bannon is lying? > Only damage I see is the one to my stocks and crypto What about cuts to the VA, impacting thousands of veterans? And don't you think ignoring the rule of law harms our democracy? Don't you think alienating our allies harms us. Don't you think cutting USAID funding and losing our soft power will Don't you think spreading lies after lies to divide the nation will harm democracy? Anyway, since you seem to be OK with how things are going, what would you say to folks who are worried about America's future - to calm them down? How will the life of Americans improve under Trump v2.0?
- arandomusername 2y ago
  > Why is he comparing Fed workers to Hitler's minions in the first place? Is he trying to say Fed workers are complicit in a major crime committed against humanity. My interpretation of the tweet is that the workers are responsible for what they do and following orders is not a valid excuse. I have no idea why he would bring that up with in regards to fed workers. You have to really reach to think he meant Hitler wasn't responsible for the holocaust (again, why did you only bring up the holocaust out of the three names?). Not to mention that Elon is a puppet of the Jews. Ben Shapiro literally led him like a dog through auschwitz. Trump, the one he helped get elected, extremely pro Israel and is surrounded by pro-Israel/Jewish members. > So Steve Bannon is lying? Maybe? I don't care for what he says. His word is as valuable as dirt to me. > What about cuts to the VA, impacting thousands of veterans? Don't they only want to cut employees? And VA has 482k employees, unbelievable number. > And don't you think ignoring the rule of law harms our democracy? I think blocking the democratically elected president from enacting the things he run on, harms your democracy. > Don't you think alienating our allies harms us. Short term hurt, long term benefit to all. As an EU citizen, I will be glad to get rid of US influence here, as it's nothing but DEI, wokism and pro-Israel agenda. > Don't you think spreading lies after lies to divide the nation will harm democracy? Like the 51 officials that signed the biden laptop thing? Both sides lie through their teeth consistently. > Anyway, since you seem to be OK with how things are going, what would you say to folks who are worried about America's future - to calm them down? Touch grass. > How will the life of Americans improve under Trump v2.0? Realistically, it won't change for shit. Just like it barely did under Trump v1.0, or Biden, or Obama. If you are an Israeli though, your life might improve.