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Many people can't accept new ideas about identity topics like sexuality. Today's trans panic is yesterday's fear of gays and the fear of women voting and school

Many people can't accept new ideas about identity topics like sexuality. Today's trans panic is yesterday's fear of gays and the fear of women voting and school desegregation before that. This can be leveraged by the rich to get the poor to help make them (the rich) richer, and they'll install whoever they owe a favor to in whatever government post because they care about nothing.

tim333 2y ago
There's a difference between being tolerant of trans people, or for that matter any unusual life choices that don't harm others, which I'm fine with, and having it forced on you to the extent that if you say common sense thoughts like there are two sexes you can be fired. I'm not sure it's trans panic so much as being pissed off with being told by the anointed ones what it's acceptable to say and think re that.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
  If there wasn't really a trans panic there wouldn't be passive aggressive comments like that and the harrassment that follows to start with. Making it "only 2 sexes lol" is bad faith, incorrect semantics, or just bad branding to frame it that way. Semantics aside, what it's really about is that some people feel psychologically different than their biological gender. If you frame it that way, there's no reasonable option other than to give them freedom and acceptance. Hence, "only 2 sexes lol" and other distractions like "won't someone think of the children". I'm not trans so I don't understand it from personal experience, but it's not in my nature to write off surprising or counterintuitive behaviors as wrong.
  - monkeyfun 2y ago
    Fwiw you pretty much nailed what being trans is in terms of a concise and unattached summary. There's usually a lot of extreme discomfort with your birth sex too, among other things, but yours is a pretty good starting definition. Of note on the "2 sexes" subject btw: - are there actually "only 2 sexes" in context of the genetically intersex? - the dialogue usually isn't "there's no such thing as a simple biological sex of male or female for most people!!!!", and most people seem to confuse gender with sex or are just seeking excuses to hate on other people. - many have been trying to suppress reasonable conversation, which is making it harder to just explain things to people. But a lot of us don't even bother trying to explain personally for ourselves when most conversations end up being exhausting bad-faith arguments just to justify our existence to someone spitting some points they heard on a podcast once. So it does tend to mean not a lot of us are going around just trying to explain to everyone like glorified jehovah's witnesses, and the popular perception is pretty distorted from the actual situation on the ground.

tim333 2y ago

There's a difference between being tolerant of trans people, or for that matter any unusual life choices that don't harm others, which I'm fine with, and having it forced on you to the extent that if you say common sense thoughts like there are two sexes you can be fired. I'm not sure it's trans panic so much as being pissed off with being told by the anointed ones what it's acceptable to say and think re that.

add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
If there wasn't really a trans panic there wouldn't be passive aggressive comments like that and the harrassment that follows to start with. Making it "only 2 sexes lol" is bad faith, incorrect semantics, or just bad branding to frame it that way. Semantics aside, what it's really about is that some people feel psychologically different than their biological gender. If you frame it that way, there's no reasonable option other than to give them freedom and acceptance. Hence, "only 2 sexes lol" and other distractions like "won't someone think of the children". I'm not trans so I don't understand it from personal experience, but it's not in my nature to write off surprising or counterintuitive behaviors as wrong.
- monkeyfun 2y ago
  Fwiw you pretty much nailed what being trans is in terms of a concise and unattached summary. There's usually a lot of extreme discomfort with your birth sex too, among other things, but yours is a pretty good starting definition. Of note on the "2 sexes" subject btw: - are there actually "only 2 sexes" in context of the genetically intersex? - the dialogue usually isn't "there's no such thing as a simple biological sex of male or female for most people!!!!", and most people seem to confuse gender with sex or are just seeking excuses to hate on other people. - many have been trying to suppress reasonable conversation, which is making it harder to just explain things to people. But a lot of us don't even bother trying to explain personally for ourselves when most conversations end up being exhausting bad-faith arguments just to justify our existence to someone spitting some points they heard on a podcast once. So it does tend to mean not a lot of us are going around just trying to explain to everyone like glorified jehovah's witnesses, and the popular perception is pretty distorted from the actual situation on the ground.