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A non-encrypted email server under a desk with a rogue email address where foreign officials have written that is not a .gov domain, not monitored, not seizable

A non-encrypted email server under a desk with a rogue email address where foreign officials have written that is not a .gov domain, not monitored, not seizable, is like deleting evidence. It’s possibly accessory to treason when you are Minister of State. Using Signal is still against all rules, but at least it’s not unencrypted. It proves that all governments bypass monitoring of their communications, even Google’s CEO when they discussed by auto-deleted chats.

drivingmenuts 2y ago
I realize that government is terrified of the Captains of Industry, but it really should have cracked down on that hard and made it clear that if it happened again, the next crackdown would guarantee there wouldn't be a third repeat.
ethbr1 2y ago
> not monitored, not seizable, is like deleting evidence Like Signal? >> Mike Waltz set disappearing message time to 4 weeks [0] [0] https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-...
- Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 2y ago
  Hmm. Well the issue is that he's using Signal, and that it's on a consumer grade phone, that is akin to deleting evidence. But at this point disappearing message is more like limiting how bad this behavior is rather than aggravating circumstances. I mean he's wrong to be using that setup but if using it I much prefer those illegal messages not be present anymore when he loses his phone or something.
  - ethbr1 2y ago
    It is illegal to destroy records of US government communications, especially at a high level, without first receiving approval from the National Archives.
    - Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 2y ago
      But is destroying illegally stored records relevant? I don't know the legal precedents
      - ethbr1 2y ago
        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9de770q9e0o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9de770q9e0o Sufficiently so, so that a judge ordered immediate retention.
        Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 2y ago
        Thank you!

drivingmenuts 2y ago

I realize that government is terrified of the Captains of Industry, but it really should have cracked down on that hard and made it clear that if it happened again, the next crackdown would guarantee there wouldn't be a third repeat.

ethbr1 2y ago

> not monitored, not seizable, is like deleting evidence Like Signal? >> Mike Waltz set disappearing message time to 4 weeks [0] [0] https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-...

Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 2y ago
Hmm. Well the issue is that he's using Signal, and that it's on a consumer grade phone, that is akin to deleting evidence. But at this point disappearing message is more like limiting how bad this behavior is rather than aggravating circumstances. I mean he's wrong to be using that setup but if using it I much prefer those illegal messages not be present anymore when he loses his phone or something.
- ethbr1 2y ago
  It is illegal to destroy records of US government communications, especially at a high level, without first receiving approval from the National Archives.
  - Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 2y ago
    But is destroying illegally stored records relevant? I don't know the legal precedents
    - ethbr1 2y ago
      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9de770q9e0o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9de770q9e0o Sufficiently so, so that a judge ordered immediate retention.
      - Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 2y ago
        Thank you!