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The clowns in charge have stated that nothing classified was discussed in the chat, so raging that revealing this is prosecutable is utterly risible.

blackbear_ 2y ago
Hypocrisy is a feature, it makes clear than they are above and you are below.
- hyperhello 2y ago
  This is very perceptive. They cannot fail, only be failed.
ceejayoz 2y ago
And this: > 1345: ‘Trigger Based’ F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME – also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s) Was certainly supposed to be classified, lest "target terrorist" goes "oh fuck, get out of the house" in those two hours.
- Tadpole9181 2y ago
  Get out of the house? How about "get the countermeasures out"?
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    If I'm being personally targeted by a US Navy aircraft carrier, "flee" is definitely gonna be higher on the list than "fight it".
4ndrewl 2y ago
Risible, but the attacks will be against The Atlantic and anyone asking similarly "un american" questions against The Administration. Expect some investigations into the outlet and their staff.
- belter 2y ago
  "Who are you with 4ndrewl ?"
- croes 2y ago
  The administration still needs the support of the people. Things like this and the Putin appeasement will reduce that. The rising costs do the rest
  - tart-lemonade 2y ago
    That assumes the conservative press will actually cover this scandal for what it is. I checked Fox, OANN, Breitbart, Newsmax, and Infowars. Of those outlets, Newsmax is only covering the attacks themselves, not the breach of national security[0], Fox is criticizing The Atlantic and calling them a partisan rag that's getting humiliated by Trump[1], and Infowars is downplaying and making excuses while also claiming The Atlantic is run by globalist (by which Alex Jones means Jewish) pedophiles[2]. For Infowars and Fox, I had to scroll pretty far down their respective front pages to find any mention of this. I think it's safe to say Trump will continue to retain the support of his base because his base are insulated from these inconvenient truths. [0]: https://archive.is/ZUtgw https://archive.is/ZUtgw [1]: https://archive.is/pKox7 https://archive.is/pKox7 [2]: https://archive.is/8ZHip https://archive.is/8ZHip
apical_dendrite 2y ago
From Hannah Arendt's Origins of Totalitarianism: "Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness."
etruong42 2y ago
Who would do the prosecuting? The DoJ? Who would they prosecute? Hegseth? Walz for adding Goldberg to the chat? Could the DoJ behave sufficiently separately from the office of the President to conduct a proper prosecution?

blackbear_ 2y ago

Hypocrisy is a feature, it makes clear than they are above and you are below.

hyperhello 2y ago
This is very perceptive. They cannot fail, only be failed.

ceejayoz 2y ago

And this: > 1345: ‘Trigger Based’ F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME – also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s) Was certainly supposed to be classified, lest "target terrorist" goes "oh fuck, get out of the house" in those two hours.

Tadpole9181 2y ago
Get out of the house? How about "get the countermeasures out"?
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  If I'm being personally targeted by a US Navy aircraft carrier, "flee" is definitely gonna be higher on the list than "fight it".

4ndrewl 2y ago

Risible, but the attacks will be against The Atlantic and anyone asking similarly "un american" questions against The Administration. Expect some investigations into the outlet and their staff.

belter 2y ago
"Who are you with 4ndrewl ?"
croes 2y ago
The administration still needs the support of the people. Things like this and the Putin appeasement will reduce that. The rising costs do the rest
- tart-lemonade 2y ago
  That assumes the conservative press will actually cover this scandal for what it is. I checked Fox, OANN, Breitbart, Newsmax, and Infowars. Of those outlets, Newsmax is only covering the attacks themselves, not the breach of national security[0], Fox is criticizing The Atlantic and calling them a partisan rag that's getting humiliated by Trump[1], and Infowars is downplaying and making excuses while also claiming The Atlantic is run by globalist (by which Alex Jones means Jewish) pedophiles[2]. For Infowars and Fox, I had to scroll pretty far down their respective front pages to find any mention of this. I think it's safe to say Trump will continue to retain the support of his base because his base are insulated from these inconvenient truths. [0]: https://archive.is/ZUtgw https://archive.is/ZUtgw [1]: https://archive.is/pKox7 https://archive.is/pKox7 [2]: https://archive.is/8ZHip https://archive.is/8ZHip

apical_dendrite 2y ago

From Hannah Arendt's Origins of Totalitarianism: "Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness."

etruong42 2y ago

Who would do the prosecuting? The DoJ? Who would they prosecute? Hegseth? Walz for adding Goldberg to the chat? Could the DoJ behave sufficiently separately from the office of the President to conduct a proper prosecution?