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> It's still not too late to impeach that entire shack of clowns. The problem is that the people in control of the power to impeach are also picked for being y

> It's still not too late to impeach that entire shack of clowns. The problem is that the people in control of the power to impeach are also picked for being yes men/women. It's yes-men all the way down by design.

jimbokun 2y ago
It’s Trump’s one true talent. He got the Supreme Court and the judiciary leaning his way in his first term. Congress is controlled by either his Republican primary candidates, or Republicans who are too afraid to cross him. Now he’s purging from the federal branch anyone who is not completely ideologically loyal to him. That is the true purpose of Doge.
- 3np 2y ago
  Vance' offices response is very telling of his priorities and supports this view.
  - hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
    Vance has to be the world's biggest boot licker. I cannot understand at all the complete lack of self respect he must have, solely for the acquisition of power.
    - belter 2y ago
      “My fear with Trump was always that he didn't have great solutions.” - J.D. Vance “People listen to what their political leaders are telling them, and my view is both that Trump is tapping into some racially ugly attitudes, but also that he is leading people to racially ugly attitudes.” - J.D. Vance “I’m a Never Trump guy” - J.D. Vance “My god what an idiot” - J.D. Vance (on Trump) “Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.” - J.D. Vance “I can’t stomach Trump.” - J.D. Vance “I think there’s a chance, if I feel like Trump has a really good chance of winning, that I might have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary Clinton.” - J.D. Vance “Trump's biggest failure as a political leader is that he sees the worst in people, and he encourages the worst in people.” - J.D. Vance
      - jimbokun 2y ago
        This would have been an amazing Harris campaign ad. Missed opportunity.
    - jimbokun 2y ago
      As far as I can tell almost every current Republican politician is roughly tied for this honor. The rest retired or got primaried.
- deepsun 2y ago
  For years I've been taught that US political system is based on checks and balances. Now I see that just like in any other country it was based on morals of people: voters, elected, and appointed.
  - pjc50 2y ago
    Like running both your "redundant" fiber through the same conduit, there isn't a second backup public to demand better. People demanded this and they got it eventually.
    - intended 2y ago
      The power of controlling information marketplaces. Also I suppose it’s crucial to point out that it’s not just controlling the marketplace for news, it also needed one party to be absolutely focused only on winning elections, and eschewing bipartisanship.
    - deepsun 2y ago
      Yes and no: nowadays third-parties can steer the people demands themselves. It became much easier with internet and "web brigades" (recently started utilizing AI as well). So on one side yes, people demanded it. But on the other side, they were manipulated to think one issue is more important than the other, to think that "the whole system is broken" etc.
  - Maken 2y ago
    Every political system is based on how much people believes on it. Laws are not magic incantations, and there is nothing forcing people to follow what they say.
    - deepsun 2y ago
      Yes, and a big problem is that the belief itself can be manipulated easier by adversaries using internet.
  - __turbobrew__ 2y ago
- nobody9999 2y ago
  How dare you! Donald Trump "is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."
  - belter 2y ago
    Also known as the Golden Grovelers: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s8PdOgVMg48 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s8PdOgVMg48
    - defrost 2y ago
      If only the US had of had a real choice other than shite and shite-lite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oxQ5fmiI9M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oxQ5fmiI9M
    - nobody9999 2y ago
      >the Golden Grovelers I don't know what those are. I'm sure they're whatever you think they are. Even though it really kills the joke when you have to explain it, I'm guessing there are generational and national barriers to getting that reference. I was comparing Donald Trump to Raymond Shaw[0]. You can assume I'm doing so facetiously or you can assume I'm serious. I'm not sure myself. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate_(1962_film)# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate_(1962...
      - belter 2y ago
        "A Groveler is a surfboard specifically designed to make the most of weaker or smaller waves"
- StackRanker3000 2y ago
  I’m going to respectfully disagree with you there. Trump’s success as a politician is solely down to three factors. Firstly, he has an insatiable desire for attention, admiration, and generally benefitting himself. That’s what causes his drive. Secondly, he has no scruples or adheres to any morals or ethics whatsoever, he is completely ruthless. This allows him to do and say whatever serves him the most in any given situation. Lastly, he has a specific type of charisma that has purchase with a certain segment of the people. That’s is the full extent of it. He has no other skills or useful attributes. Anything else, especially if it’s at all technical or practical, comes from the people he’s surrounded himself with. To interact with your point, he’s not even particularly adept at enlisting sycophants. Remember his first administration, when numerous aides and associates had both public and private disagreements with him (as one example out of many, I’ll refer to Rex Tillerson calling him a ”fucking moron”). The reason things are different this time is that another set of people are running the show, and they’ve realized that including old establishment Republicans, that have to at least pretend to be serious members of society, would have been a barrier to their agenda. Turning the judiciary red across the country is especially not something you can attribute to Trump. It’s been a systematic effort by the Republicans (and adjacent organizations such as the Heritage Foundation) over the span of decades. He just happened to be in the position to make the appointments.
  - verisimi 2y ago
    Attention, lack of scruples and charisma, are prerequisites for ALL politicians. Obama, Reagan, Clinton were the same, no?
    - StackRanker3000 2y ago
      > Attention, lack of scruples and charisma, are prerequisites for ALL politicians. Sure, to some extent. Trump is an extreme outlier though, at least on the first two. And my main point was mainly that he doesn’t have anything else. > Obama, Reagan, Clinton were the same, no? Again, to some degree. Obama and Clinton especially were also shrewd politicians and had skills and strengths in addition to the attributes mentioned above.

jimbokun 2y ago

It’s Trump’s one true talent. He got the Supreme Court and the judiciary leaning his way in his first term. Congress is controlled by either his Republican primary candidates, or Republicans who are too afraid to cross him. Now he’s purging from the federal branch anyone who is not completely ideologically loyal to him. That is the true purpose of Doge.

3np 2y ago
Vance' offices response is very telling of his priorities and supports this view.
- hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
  Vance has to be the world's biggest boot licker. I cannot understand at all the complete lack of self respect he must have, solely for the acquisition of power.
  - belter 2y ago
    “My fear with Trump was always that he didn't have great solutions.” - J.D. Vance “People listen to what their political leaders are telling them, and my view is both that Trump is tapping into some racially ugly attitudes, but also that he is leading people to racially ugly attitudes.” - J.D. Vance “I’m a Never Trump guy” - J.D. Vance “My god what an idiot” - J.D. Vance (on Trump) “Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.” - J.D. Vance “I can’t stomach Trump.” - J.D. Vance “I think there’s a chance, if I feel like Trump has a really good chance of winning, that I might have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary Clinton.” - J.D. Vance “Trump's biggest failure as a political leader is that he sees the worst in people, and he encourages the worst in people.” - J.D. Vance
    - jimbokun 2y ago
      This would have been an amazing Harris campaign ad. Missed opportunity.
  - jimbokun 2y ago
    As far as I can tell almost every current Republican politician is roughly tied for this honor. The rest retired or got primaried.
deepsun 2y ago
For years I've been taught that US political system is based on checks and balances. Now I see that just like in any other country it was based on morals of people: voters, elected, and appointed.
- pjc50 2y ago
  Like running both your "redundant" fiber through the same conduit, there isn't a second backup public to demand better. People demanded this and they got it eventually.
  - intended 2y ago
    The power of controlling information marketplaces. Also I suppose it’s crucial to point out that it’s not just controlling the marketplace for news, it also needed one party to be absolutely focused only on winning elections, and eschewing bipartisanship.
  - deepsun 2y ago
    Yes and no: nowadays third-parties can steer the people demands themselves. It became much easier with internet and "web brigades" (recently started utilizing AI as well). So on one side yes, people demanded it. But on the other side, they were manipulated to think one issue is more important than the other, to think that "the whole system is broken" etc.
- Maken 2y ago
  Every political system is based on how much people believes on it. Laws are not magic incantations, and there is nothing forcing people to follow what they say.
  - deepsun 2y ago
    Yes, and a big problem is that the belief itself can be manipulated easier by adversaries using internet.
- __turbobrew__ 2y ago
nobody9999 2y ago
How dare you! Donald Trump "is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."
- belter 2y ago
  Also known as the Golden Grovelers: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s8PdOgVMg48 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s8PdOgVMg48
  - defrost 2y ago
    If only the US had of had a real choice other than shite and shite-lite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oxQ5fmiI9M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oxQ5fmiI9M
  - nobody9999 2y ago
    >the Golden Grovelers I don't know what those are. I'm sure they're whatever you think they are. Even though it really kills the joke when you have to explain it, I'm guessing there are generational and national barriers to getting that reference. I was comparing Donald Trump to Raymond Shaw[0]. You can assume I'm doing so facetiously or you can assume I'm serious. I'm not sure myself. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate_(1962_film)# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate_(1962...
    - belter 2y ago
      "A Groveler is a surfboard specifically designed to make the most of weaker or smaller waves"
StackRanker3000 2y ago
I’m going to respectfully disagree with you there. Trump’s success as a politician is solely down to three factors. Firstly, he has an insatiable desire for attention, admiration, and generally benefitting himself. That’s what causes his drive. Secondly, he has no scruples or adheres to any morals or ethics whatsoever, he is completely ruthless. This allows him to do and say whatever serves him the most in any given situation. Lastly, he has a specific type of charisma that has purchase with a certain segment of the people. That’s is the full extent of it. He has no other skills or useful attributes. Anything else, especially if it’s at all technical or practical, comes from the people he’s surrounded himself with. To interact with your point, he’s not even particularly adept at enlisting sycophants. Remember his first administration, when numerous aides and associates had both public and private disagreements with him (as one example out of many, I’ll refer to Rex Tillerson calling him a ”fucking moron”). The reason things are different this time is that another set of people are running the show, and they’ve realized that including old establishment Republicans, that have to at least pretend to be serious members of society, would have been a barrier to their agenda. Turning the judiciary red across the country is especially not something you can attribute to Trump. It’s been a systematic effort by the Republicans (and adjacent organizations such as the Heritage Foundation) over the span of decades. He just happened to be in the position to make the appointments.
- verisimi 2y ago
  Attention, lack of scruples and charisma, are prerequisites for ALL politicians. Obama, Reagan, Clinton were the same, no?
  - StackRanker3000 2y ago
    > Attention, lack of scruples and charisma, are prerequisites for ALL politicians. Sure, to some extent. Trump is an extreme outlier though, at least on the first two. And my main point was mainly that he doesn’t have anything else. > Obama, Reagan, Clinton were the same, no? Again, to some degree. Obama and Clinton especially were also shrewd politicians and had skills and strengths in addition to the attributes mentioned above.