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The author has several other repos that are libraries for unity, so probably that, but it's just a VM so it could be any of them. Stride is the only C# impleme

The author has several other repos that are libraries for unity, so probably that, but it's just a VM so it could be any of them. Stride is the only C# implemented engine I'm aware of, but I'm sure there are others.

dismalaf 2y ago
All the big engines have C# scripting, so a scripting language for your scripting language?
- jayd16 2y ago
  More like IL as the, well ... intermediate language.
- Rohansi 2y ago
  I wouldn't really classify C# as a scripting language even if some of those engines say it is. The main criteria (IMO) of a scripting language is to be easily embeddable and C# is not.
  - MindSpunk 2y ago
    Whether you classify C# as a scripting language isn't really important though. In Unity and other engines C# is the 'language you write game scripts with', which has nothing to do with whether C# falls into the woefully vague and borderline useless category of "scripting language".
  - MrLeap 2y ago
    I agree with you but maybe for different reasons. (Depends on how you defined embeddable I suppose). The primary purpose of a scripting language for gamedev is for mod support. If end users can't open the scripts up in notepad, play around and have them change the game, you're adding friction to this.
    - hnlmorg 2y ago
      That’s never been a blocker for game modding. - Worms: required a CLI tool to convert SFX - Doom: WAD files were pkzip format - Duke3D: came with its own level editor - Jazz Jack Rabbit 2: also came with its own level editor - Grand Theft Auto: massive modding community for the original game on PC via unofficial 3rd party hacks - Minecraft, Roblox, Mario Maker, etc: all have massive communities of user generated content and none of that has been created via notepad.exe. It would be harder to come up with examples, either modern or retro, where plain text files were the preferred method for modding.
      - johnisgood 2y ago
        > - Doom: WAD files were pkzip format > - Duke3D: came with its own level editor Add ioquake3 forks to it (there are many), such as Tremulous (massively modded, initially came from Quake 3), Urban Terror, Unvanquished (development is very active), etc. (Tremulous mappers use NetRadiant.) Anyways, you are absolutely right, although maybe I am just a boomer by now. I was 14 years old (along with many other players and modders) when I started modding Tremulous. I wish Tremulous was still active, but it is not. :( I still keep in touch with players from >15 years ago.
        pimeys 2y ago
        Urban Terror. That's a game I haven't heard about in a long time. It must've been somewhere between 1998-2002 I played it. Damn, we even had a clan, and I played it on my Linux PC. Does it still exist? If so, I probably get instantly killed if I dare to join any of the public servers...
        johnisgood 2y ago
        Apparently it is still under development: https://www.urbanterror.info/news/blogs/ https://www.urbanterror.info/news/blogs/ (last post is from 11 days ago). There are players, too: "Online: 208 servers with 109 players" at this time.[1] Fun times for sure! Bomb was my favorite game type. :) [1] https://www.urbanterror.info/servers/home/ https://www.urbanterror.info/servers/home/
  - p_ing 2y ago
    $CSharpCode = @" using System; public class HelloWorld { public static void SayHello() { Console.WriteLine("Hello, World!"); } } "@ Add-Type -TypeDefinition $CSharpCode -Language CSharp [HelloWorld]::SayHello() There's your scriptable-in-PowerShell C# ;-)
    - lIl-IIIl 2y ago
      Even better, C# has top-level methods, no classes needed: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/fundamentals/program-structure/top-level-statements https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/fundamentals...
      - p_ing 2y ago
        Does that run under Windows PowerShell, or just PowerShell [core]?
  - dismalaf 2y ago
    I mean, Unity and Godot used to embed Mono... And C# is used as a scripting language for both, in the sense that the user uses C# to call engine functions (dunno about all of Unity's internals but Godot is written entirely in C++) to script gameplay behaviour. It doesn't matter what you classify C# as because they use it for scripting.
  - moomin 2y ago
    I think for the purposes of a third-party system, the ease of embedding is pretty much a question of whether or not it’s already embedded.
- voidUpdate 2y ago
  Unreal has C# scripting? I've only seen it having blueprints and C++
  - dismalaf 2y ago
    There's 3rd party C# scripting plugins for Unreal.
pjmlp 2y ago
At least all of these, https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/games/engines https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/games/engines And Capcom's own fork, used on Devil May Cry for the PlayStation 5. "RE:2023 C# 8.0 / .NET Support for Game Code, and the Future" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDUY90yIC7U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDUY90yIC7U It took a while since Arena Wars was published in 2004, but eventually it took off. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Wars

dismalaf 2y ago

All the big engines have C# scripting, so a scripting language for your scripting language?

jayd16 2y ago
More like IL as the, well ... intermediate language.
Rohansi 2y ago
I wouldn't really classify C# as a scripting language even if some of those engines say it is. The main criteria (IMO) of a scripting language is to be easily embeddable and C# is not.
- MindSpunk 2y ago
  Whether you classify C# as a scripting language isn't really important though. In Unity and other engines C# is the 'language you write game scripts with', which has nothing to do with whether C# falls into the woefully vague and borderline useless category of "scripting language".
- MrLeap 2y ago
  I agree with you but maybe for different reasons. (Depends on how you defined embeddable I suppose). The primary purpose of a scripting language for gamedev is for mod support. If end users can't open the scripts up in notepad, play around and have them change the game, you're adding friction to this.
  - hnlmorg 2y ago
    That’s never been a blocker for game modding. - Worms: required a CLI tool to convert SFX - Doom: WAD files were pkzip format - Duke3D: came with its own level editor - Jazz Jack Rabbit 2: also came with its own level editor - Grand Theft Auto: massive modding community for the original game on PC via unofficial 3rd party hacks - Minecraft, Roblox, Mario Maker, etc: all have massive communities of user generated content and none of that has been created via notepad.exe. It would be harder to come up with examples, either modern or retro, where plain text files were the preferred method for modding.
    - johnisgood 2y ago
      > - Doom: WAD files were pkzip format > - Duke3D: came with its own level editor Add ioquake3 forks to it (there are many), such as Tremulous (massively modded, initially came from Quake 3), Urban Terror, Unvanquished (development is very active), etc. (Tremulous mappers use NetRadiant.) Anyways, you are absolutely right, although maybe I am just a boomer by now. I was 14 years old (along with many other players and modders) when I started modding Tremulous. I wish Tremulous was still active, but it is not. :( I still keep in touch with players from >15 years ago.
      - pimeys 2y ago
        Urban Terror. That's a game I haven't heard about in a long time. It must've been somewhere between 1998-2002 I played it. Damn, we even had a clan, and I played it on my Linux PC. Does it still exist? If so, I probably get instantly killed if I dare to join any of the public servers...
        johnisgood 2y ago
        Apparently it is still under development: https://www.urbanterror.info/news/blogs/ https://www.urbanterror.info/news/blogs/ (last post is from 11 days ago). There are players, too: "Online: 208 servers with 109 players" at this time.[1] Fun times for sure! Bomb was my favorite game type. :) [1] https://www.urbanterror.info/servers/home/ https://www.urbanterror.info/servers/home/
- p_ing 2y ago
  $CSharpCode = @" using System; public class HelloWorld { public static void SayHello() { Console.WriteLine("Hello, World!"); } } "@ Add-Type -TypeDefinition $CSharpCode -Language CSharp [HelloWorld]::SayHello() There's your scriptable-in-PowerShell C# ;-)
  - lIl-IIIl 2y ago
    Even better, C# has top-level methods, no classes needed: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/fundamentals/program-structure/top-level-statements https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/fundamentals...
    - p_ing 2y ago
      Does that run under Windows PowerShell, or just PowerShell [core]?
- dismalaf 2y ago
  I mean, Unity and Godot used to embed Mono... And C# is used as a scripting language for both, in the sense that the user uses C# to call engine functions (dunno about all of Unity's internals but Godot is written entirely in C++) to script gameplay behaviour. It doesn't matter what you classify C# as because they use it for scripting.
- moomin 2y ago
  I think for the purposes of a third-party system, the ease of embedding is pretty much a question of whether or not it’s already embedded.
voidUpdate 2y ago
Unreal has C# scripting? I've only seen it having blueprints and C++
- dismalaf 2y ago
  There's 3rd party C# scripting plugins for Unreal.

pjmlp 2y ago

At least all of these, https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/games/engines https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/games/engines And Capcom's own fork, used on Devil May Cry for the PlayStation 5. "RE:2023 C# 8.0 / .NET Support for Game Code, and the Future" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDUY90yIC7U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDUY90yIC7U It took a while since Arena Wars was published in 2004, but eventually it took off. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Wars