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Arson and more broadly terrorism is not boycotting, and I'm rather tired of mainstream left-leaning media pretending that it is. The fact that you're using the

Arson and more broadly terrorism is not boycotting, and I'm rather tired of mainstream left-leaning media pretending that it is. The fact that you're using the same script as said media makes you sound like a bot that's part of the same cartel. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/02/business/media/sinclair-news-anchors-script.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/02/business/media/sinclair-n... and more recently https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/dems-slammed-over-apparent-copy-and-paste-social-media-statements https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/dems-slammed-over-ap...

ZeroTalent 2y ago
it's tough to fight against fascism without the use of violence or a very heavy threat of violence. I think that most major changes in history show this to be true. barely anyone would even mention a regular protest in front of dealerships.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > tough to fight against fascism without the use of violence or a very heavy threat of violence Torching Teslas isn't a strategic use of violence, it's throwing a tantrum. If you're talking about revolutionary violence, you're unfortunately crossing into using violence as a political tool, i.e. killing supporters to intimidate or leadership to decapitate. Anyone who thinks we're there right now isn't versed in what happens to ordinary people during and after revolutions, even those that fail. (That said, I do find the irony of the January 6th ally decrying political violence a bit ridiculous. If you bought a Cybertruck after 2021, you made your own bed.)
  - consteval 2y ago
    > Torching Teslas isn't a strategic use of violence, it's throwing a tantrum. I don't know, seems about the same as throwing tea into a river. Doesn't help anyone, the tea was probably already sold so it doesn't even hurt the manufacturer. But it does send a message, doesn't it?
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > seems about the same as throwing tea into a river Genuine question: whose tea was it?
      - kasey_junk 2y ago
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party The British East India company’s and by extension the shareholders. It was the ability of the company to sell tea directly to the colonies which was a major issue driving the discontent.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
This article isn't about arson. It's about a drop in sales.
- Ferret7446 2y ago
  No, but the GP is framing the arson and related terrorism that is scaring people from buying/driving Teslas as a "boycott" in the same way that disingenuous news media is, and justifying it by comparing it to the Bud Light boycott. The drop in sales is from terrorism, not from a "boycott".
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    Which is hilarious coming from the party that says assaulting Congress when off your meds is a okay. If Democrats fought like Republicans, Schumer and Jeffries would be promising pardons for Tesla arsonists.
guelo 2y ago
There is a widespread boycott and a bunch of peaceful protests. There are a few instances of arson and zero instances of terrorism. I'm tired of right wing media sensationalizing the handful of radicals and ignoring the thousands and million of peaceful people. Just like during George Floyd protests.

ZeroTalent 2y ago

it's tough to fight against fascism without the use of violence or a very heavy threat of violence. I think that most major changes in history show this to be true. barely anyone would even mention a regular protest in front of dealerships.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> tough to fight against fascism without the use of violence or a very heavy threat of violence Torching Teslas isn't a strategic use of violence, it's throwing a tantrum. If you're talking about revolutionary violence, you're unfortunately crossing into using violence as a political tool, i.e. killing supporters to intimidate or leadership to decapitate. Anyone who thinks we're there right now isn't versed in what happens to ordinary people during and after revolutions, even those that fail. (That said, I do find the irony of the January 6th ally decrying political violence a bit ridiculous. If you bought a Cybertruck after 2021, you made your own bed.)
- consteval 2y ago
  > Torching Teslas isn't a strategic use of violence, it's throwing a tantrum. I don't know, seems about the same as throwing tea into a river. Doesn't help anyone, the tea was probably already sold so it doesn't even hurt the manufacturer. But it does send a message, doesn't it?
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > seems about the same as throwing tea into a river Genuine question: whose tea was it?
    - kasey_junk 2y ago
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party The British East India company’s and by extension the shareholders. It was the ability of the company to sell tea directly to the colonies which was a major issue driving the discontent.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

This article isn't about arson. It's about a drop in sales.

Ferret7446 2y ago
No, but the GP is framing the arson and related terrorism that is scaring people from buying/driving Teslas as a "boycott" in the same way that disingenuous news media is, and justifying it by comparing it to the Bud Light boycott. The drop in sales is from terrorism, not from a "boycott".
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  Which is hilarious coming from the party that says assaulting Congress when off your meds is a okay. If Democrats fought like Republicans, Schumer and Jeffries would be promising pardons for Tesla arsonists.

guelo 2y ago

There is a widespread boycott and a bunch of peaceful protests. There are a few instances of arson and zero instances of terrorism. I'm tired of right wing media sensationalizing the handful of radicals and ignoring the thousands and million of peaceful people. Just like during George Floyd protests.