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Wasn't Elon part of the campaign to boycot bud light because he didn't like an ad? So now people are boycotting Tesla for destroying American government and pr

• rvnx 2y ago
  It's even more insidious, because even if you like Tesla, your car may get scratched by people who don't like Tesla. But yeah, perhaps telling allies in Europe to get fucked, and tell our friends that the US was embracing the idea to economically attack Canada and potentially militarily Denmark, supporting the idea that the US deserves to get a piece of Ukraine together with Russia, weren't probably the smartest moves among millions of other things. I like Tesla as a product though (except the finish quality), but it's even less likely that FSD will come in Europe now... And now, more oddly, it is a remotely controlled video and microphone, so even more creepy seeing the personalities of the people behind.
  • throwpoaster 2y ago
    There’s been no talk of military attacks against Canada and Greenland/Denmark to my knowledge (as a Canadian). Do you have a link?
    • bdcravens 2y ago
      While it's not exactly a military declaration, Trump said during the joint session to Congress, "One way or the other, we’re going to get it" in reference to Greenland.
      • rvnx 2y ago
        https://www.npr.org/2025/03/30/nx-s1-5344942/trump-military-force-not-off-the-table-for-greenland https://www.npr.org/2025/03/30/nx-s1-5344942/trump-military-... and now openly talks about military force
    • rvnx 2y ago
      To be fair (I edited), he mentioned annexation through economic pressure, it's the overall feeling "whatever it takes". https://theconversation.com/an-american-military-invasion-of-canada-no-longer-unthinkable-but-highly-unlikely-251959 https://theconversation.com/an-american-military-invasion-of... https://www.gzeromedia.com/gzero-north/does-canada-need-to-prepare-for-a-us-attack https://www.gzeromedia.com/gzero-north/does-canada-need-to-p... https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/rubio-says-g7-wont-discuss-us-takeover-canada-2025-03-12/ https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/rubio-says-g7-wont-di... https://www.defensenews.com/global/the-americas/2025/03/20/facing-trumps-threats-canada-shifts-defense-links-away-from-us/ https://www.defensenews.com/global/the-americas/2025/03/20/f... It's very unlikely, but even the fact that they mention it as a possibility feels just crazy to me. You don't have to worry if you live in Canada though, I think this is just politicians trolling. I just find the rhetoric to be a bit obscene (82% of Canadians are against it according to a recent poll!), but this is a question of perspective. Also, some impact (like the additional taxes / tariffs during imports) are real, not just a joke.
      • archagon 2y ago
        I don’t think any of this is “just politicians trolling.” Trump would absolutely attack Canada if he thought he could get away with annexing it.
        • AlecSchueler 2y ago
          He's always just joking until he isn't.
    • querez 2y ago
      So, with regard to Greenland, he specifically refused to rule out military action [0]. Which in diplomatic protocols comes very darn close to threatening a military attacks. As far as Canada goes, Trump's national security advisors is on the record [4] saying he doesn't think there's any plans about this. Which is also an extremely uncertain way of talking about military action about your closest neighbor. Trump has repeatedly talked about making Canada the 51st state [1], and called Trudeau a "Governor" [2]. Here's a New York time article summing up the types of threats/attacks Trump made wrt. Canada[3]. [0] https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-offshore-drilling-gulf-of-america-fa66f8d072eb39c00a8128a8941ede75 https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-offshore-drilling-gul... [1] https://apnews.com/article/how-canada-could-become-us-state-42360e10ded96c0046fd11eaaf55ab88 https://apnews.com/article/how-canada-could-become-us-state-... [2] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-mocks-prime-minister-justin-trudeau-governor-great-state-canada-rcna183570 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-mocks-pr... [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/canada-trump-statehood-attacks.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/canada-trump-... [4] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-national-security-adviser-no-plans-invade-canada-waltz-rcna191374 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-national...
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      • JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > he specifically refused to rule out military action Donald Trump has specifically ruled out a lot of things that he then promptly did. He's also followed through enough that his threats have to be taken seriously. As a result, you get a hodgepodge of half-assed threats, each of which can be plausibly denied until followed through on, at which point you're asked how you didn't see him doing the thing he said he would do.
    • Hikikomori 2y ago
      "one way or another" He wants to buy it, but what happens when Denmark refuses. He also asked the Pentagon to draw up plans for Panama.
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  • tmaly 2y ago
    Tesla employs a lot of Americans, so this is going to hurt them, not just Elon.
    • mostlysimilar 2y ago
      This is a direct response to thousands of Americans being fired from their jobs by Elon's actions, with thousands more threatened and likely to lose their jobs in the future. I don't think "think of the jobs" is the right way to convince people this is a bad move.
    • skygazer 2y ago
      Employees have had fair warning, and years of advanced notice. Not a one has illusions about his character. They either relish it, or are looking for new opportunities at this point.
    • guelo 2y ago
      Elon has fired way more people than he employs.
  • ZeroTalent 2y ago
    I don't think true FSD is possible without lidar.
    • ben_w 2y ago
      Eventually it must be possible, because humans don't come with LIDAR. But "eventually" can be a long way off. Dunno how far we are from a pure-vision model that is simultaneously good enough for FSD and fits into the power envelope available to a car. And even then, it feels like an unnecessary handicap to skimp on more sensor modalities.
      • HPMOR 2y ago
        Humans are bad at driving. I do not want an automated system to be a substitute, I want it to be vastly superior and safer. 40,000 people die each year in car accidents in the United States. I expect an autonomous system to be ZERO deaths a year. Getting there will absolutely require more robust systems than what humans come equipped with.
        • eric_cc 2y ago
          Humans rely on two eyes and only look one direction at a time. Even the current Tesla Vision sees much more at once than a human is capable of. Also I agree we should aim for zero deaths. But any improvement is better than no improvement.
          • raducu 2y ago
            There's plenty of videos on youtube of what a little fog does to tesla vs any other radar auto-brake system. My favorite is where they painted a cardboard wall to match the road, Coyote and Roadrunner style and Tesla was the only car to smash into it. Put a radar/lidar already into the Tesla! Why not make it an amazing car, just because Elon is a narccisistic/sociopatic asshole? I swear Elon is his own greatest enemy.
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• blisterpeanuts 2y ago
  I can find no evidence that Musk was involved in the Bud Light boycott. Do you have a link?
  • Symbiote 2y ago
    It looks like it was invented by a satirical 'news' site: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elon-musk-bud-light-tweets/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elon-musk-bud-light-tweets...
  • jxjnskkzxxhx 2y ago
    Accuses people without evidence, and so do I.
• Tade0 2y ago
  I truly feel that his ideology mandates a separate term. Muskism? Elonism? The latter rolls of the tongue better, but I suppose future historians will lean towards the former.
  • drivingmenuts 2y ago
    Fascism. Just rebrand.
    • ZeroTalent 2y ago
      Just neofascism.
• jycr753 2y ago
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• jamincan 2y ago
  It was because one of the many social media influencers they paid to promote a March Madness contest also happened to be trans.
• DaRealest007 2y ago
  Interesting. My understanding of what DOGE is doing is getting American debt under control. Trying to save the country from going bankrupt from overspending on programs that do not improve the life of the average citizen. I'm failing to see how that is destroying the American government. Maybe it's just me.
  • mattbrewsbytes 2y ago
    Federal employees cost less than 5% of the fed budget which is $6000B. So if you lay off 10% of employees you are effectively reducing the budget by like $30B which leaves $5970B left. Laying off employees will not help federal government debt or budget.
  • simonw 2y ago
    If they want to get American debt under control why did they fire a bunch of people at the IRS such that it's predicted we will see half a trillion in fresh losses to tax cheats this season? https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/03/22/irs-tax-revenue-loss-federal-budget/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/03/22/irs-tax-r...
    • busyant 2y ago
      > If they want to get American debt under control I think the 2nd half of your sentence answers the first half. They don't.
  • jxjnskkzxxhx 2y ago
    American gov was built with checks and balances. Eroding those is destroying American government. Yes, maybe it's just you.
    • blisterpeanuts 2y ago
      The permanent bureaucracy exists outside of checks and balances.
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• Ferret7446 2y ago
  Arson and more broadly terrorism is not boycotting, and I'm rather tired of mainstream left-leaning media pretending that it is. The fact that you're using the same script as said media makes you sound like a bot that's part of the same cartel. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/02/business/media/sinclair-news-anchors-script.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/02/business/media/sinclair-n... and more recently https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/dems-slammed-over-apparent-copy-and-paste-social-media-statements https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/dems-slammed-over-ap...
  • ZeroTalent 2y ago
    it's tough to fight against fascism without the use of violence or a very heavy threat of violence. I think that most major changes in history show this to be true. barely anyone would even mention a regular protest in front of dealerships.
    • JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > tough to fight against fascism without the use of violence or a very heavy threat of violence Torching Teslas isn't a strategic use of violence, it's throwing a tantrum. If you're talking about revolutionary violence, you're unfortunately crossing into using violence as a political tool, i.e. killing supporters to intimidate or leadership to decapitate. Anyone who thinks we're there right now isn't versed in what happens to ordinary people during and after revolutions, even those that fail. (That said, I do find the irony of the January 6th ally decrying political violence a bit ridiculous. If you bought a Cybertruck after 2021, you made your own bed.)
      • consteval 2y ago
        > Torching Teslas isn't a strategic use of violence, it's throwing a tantrum. I don't know, seems about the same as throwing tea into a river. Doesn't help anyone, the tea was probably already sold so it doesn't even hurt the manufacturer. But it does send a message, doesn't it?