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One big difference I've noticed compared to Europe is that while there is a lot of regional pride and differences, there are very few rivalries or animosities f

One big difference I've noticed compared to Europe is that while there is a lot of regional pride and differences, there are very few rivalries or animosities for some reason. I couldn't even get people to tell me some negative stereotypes

riffraff 2y ago
Could it be the lack of success in getting negative stereotypes has more to do with what is and isn't "fine to discuss", rather than the absence of them? In Europe stereotypes are not limited to nationality, you have them about one specific part of a country (e.g. scots are stereotypically miserly in UK lore, as are people from Genoa in Italy). Heck we have stereotypes about people from different areas in a single city :)
- contrarian1234 2y ago
  Like it's a taboo thing? I didn't get that impression. There are definitely stereotypes of big-city vs country-side people for instance I think just till relatively recently people didn't travel too far from their hometowns/villages. So there weren't strong stereotypes about people that were effectively far away Identity is kind of two-tiered. There is a national identity which is strongly tied to history and literature and more "sophisticated" things - and then there is a local identity tied to dialect, food and historically stuff like local opera, music etc. You're typically not in any way interacting with other local cultures other than the one in your vicinity (other than ethnic minorities - for which there are stereotypes a bit) Anyway, I could be wrong. Would be curious to hear from someone who grew up in the environment
  - schneehertz 2y ago
    Stereotypes about regions are not uncommon on the Chinese internet. For example, Henan Province and stealing manhole covers, Chengdu and homosexuality. But in daily life, I have not seen discrimination against specific groups of people. I live in Shenzhen, where there are people from all over China, and everyone is not much different from each other, nor does anyone care where someone comes from.
    - mmooss 2y ago
      > I live in Shenzhen, where there are people from all over China, and everyone is not much different from each other, nor does anyone care where someone comes from. That seems usually true in densely populated areas that attract people from all over; e.g., most people in NY or LA don't care where you're from; it doesn't even register as something to question. It's the people in the less dense areas that object (to people they've seldom encountered). They are the ones that much more often object to immigrants or certain ethnic groups. People from less dense areas are the ones who want 'crackdowns' on urban crime - that is, in a community they don't live in. People in the cities vote for liberals overwhelmingly.
  - riffraff 2y ago
    not so much a taboo as much as "not proper" thing. But yeah, if there's stereotypes about city vs country than it couldn't have been that.
suraci 2y ago
well... That's mainly because, in China, region-based criticism is considered very, very rude. people don't talk about this in public even though they do have opinions > I couldn't even get people to tell me some negative stereotypes it's kinda like you're asking people to tell you some negative stereotypes of colored people
- ferguess_k 2y ago
  It is not that taboo. People talk about that in private very often, but I agree that it is rude in public. Plus it is a bit better in the younger generation.
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- netsharc 2y ago
  Shanghai people are known to be disliked, a quick DDG confirms that this theory exists. https://www.thoughtco.com/beijing-vs-shanghai-687988 https://www.thoughtco.com/beijing-vs-shanghai-687988
Lanolderen 2y ago
Shilled it in another spot but a lot of the banter of https://www.youtube.com/@CadenceGao https://www.youtube.com/@CadenceGao is about regional stereotypes. Look for videos with english thumbnails.

riffraff 2y ago

Could it be the lack of success in getting negative stereotypes has more to do with what is and isn't "fine to discuss", rather than the absence of them? In Europe stereotypes are not limited to nationality, you have them about one specific part of a country (e.g. scots are stereotypically miserly in UK lore, as are people from Genoa in Italy). Heck we have stereotypes about people from different areas in a single city :)

contrarian1234 2y ago
Like it's a taboo thing? I didn't get that impression. There are definitely stereotypes of big-city vs country-side people for instance I think just till relatively recently people didn't travel too far from their hometowns/villages. So there weren't strong stereotypes about people that were effectively far away Identity is kind of two-tiered. There is a national identity which is strongly tied to history and literature and more "sophisticated" things - and then there is a local identity tied to dialect, food and historically stuff like local opera, music etc. You're typically not in any way interacting with other local cultures other than the one in your vicinity (other than ethnic minorities - for which there are stereotypes a bit) Anyway, I could be wrong. Would be curious to hear from someone who grew up in the environment
- schneehertz 2y ago
  Stereotypes about regions are not uncommon on the Chinese internet. For example, Henan Province and stealing manhole covers, Chengdu and homosexuality. But in daily life, I have not seen discrimination against specific groups of people. I live in Shenzhen, where there are people from all over China, and everyone is not much different from each other, nor does anyone care where someone comes from.
  - mmooss 2y ago
    > I live in Shenzhen, where there are people from all over China, and everyone is not much different from each other, nor does anyone care where someone comes from. That seems usually true in densely populated areas that attract people from all over; e.g., most people in NY or LA don't care where you're from; it doesn't even register as something to question. It's the people in the less dense areas that object (to people they've seldom encountered). They are the ones that much more often object to immigrants or certain ethnic groups. People from less dense areas are the ones who want 'crackdowns' on urban crime - that is, in a community they don't live in. People in the cities vote for liberals overwhelmingly.
- riffraff 2y ago
  not so much a taboo as much as "not proper" thing. But yeah, if there's stereotypes about city vs country than it couldn't have been that.

suraci 2y ago

well... That's mainly because, in China, region-based criticism is considered very, very rude. people don't talk about this in public even though they do have opinions > I couldn't even get people to tell me some negative stereotypes it's kinda like you're asking people to tell you some negative stereotypes of colored people

ferguess_k 2y ago
It is not that taboo. People talk about that in private very often, but I agree that it is rude in public. Plus it is a bit better in the younger generation.
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netsharc 2y ago
Shanghai people are known to be disliked, a quick DDG confirms that this theory exists. https://www.thoughtco.com/beijing-vs-shanghai-687988 https://www.thoughtco.com/beijing-vs-shanghai-687988

Lanolderen 2y ago

Shilled it in another spot but a lot of the banter of https://www.youtube.com/@CadenceGao https://www.youtube.com/@CadenceGao is about regional stereotypes. Look for videos with english thumbnails.