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Why was this downvoted? Your close family also shares your DNA, to 100%! Suppose your parents both test.. Your DNA is not something that you can 100% keep from

by sandos 2y ago

Why was this downvoted? Your close family also shares your DNA, to 100%! Suppose your parents both test.. Your DNA is not something that you can 100% keep from others.

2muchcoffeeman 2y ago
I think because it was unnecessarily conspiratorial. I can’t just sequence DNA can you? Do you think government agencies are collecting your tissues?
- jart 2y ago
  It's not a conspiracy. That's what we call a startup. You've never heard of airborne dna data collection? Go cry into your pillow :) Reality is always so much more extreme than the conspiracies. Conspiracy theorists lack the minds to imagine half this stuff.
- dekhn 2y ago
  Sure, people can sequence DNA in their garage if they want. You need to know how to do it and how to not mess up all the details if you want to get reliable data. As for government collecting samples from the environment, they (researchers funded by the government) already do that- it was used in COVID and many other places.
  - jart 2y ago
    They have USB thumb drives for sequencing DNA nowadays: https://nanoporetech.com/products/sequence/minion https://nanoporetech.com/products/sequence/minion You can use that toy to find out pretty much everything about anybody. This is just a technological paradigm shift that's happening. What made 23andMe different is that (a) they got YOUR consent, (b) they made the information useful to YOU. So no one here should blame the people trying to help. It's always the people trying to help who face the backlash of reactionary fear and anger. Since reactionaries never ask themselves what they're not seeing.
    - dekhn 2y ago
      I think you probably meant to reply to somebody else. I was thinking of the minion when I said "you can sequence in your garage". I was agreeing that things like airborne detection exist. I'm not blaming anybody, except Anne, who was woefully naive about the business and the science. I did try to point out that most people who try to sequence things on their own mess things up because sequencing and sequence analysis is quite tricky. Svante Paabo, who helped establish that we can sequence ancient humans, acknowledged that his first few people were really just analyzing his own sequences, as he contaminated the samples while handling them. The minion is really quite limited- it's a convenient tool to have in the field, but nearly everybody who is doing serious sequencing is using larger, more expensive desktop machines in a lab.

by sandos 2y ago

Why was this downvoted? Your close family also shares your DNA, to 100%! Suppose your parents both test.. Your DNA is not something that you can 100% keep from others.

2muchcoffeeman 2y ago

I think because it was unnecessarily conspiratorial. I can’t just sequence DNA can you? Do you think government agencies are collecting your tissues?

jart 2y ago
It's not a conspiracy. That's what we call a startup. You've never heard of airborne dna data collection? Go cry into your pillow :) Reality is always so much more extreme than the conspiracies. Conspiracy theorists lack the minds to imagine half this stuff.
dekhn 2y ago
Sure, people can sequence DNA in their garage if they want. You need to know how to do it and how to not mess up all the details if you want to get reliable data. As for government collecting samples from the environment, they (researchers funded by the government) already do that- it was used in COVID and many other places.
- jart 2y ago
  They have USB thumb drives for sequencing DNA nowadays: https://nanoporetech.com/products/sequence/minion https://nanoporetech.com/products/sequence/minion You can use that toy to find out pretty much everything about anybody. This is just a technological paradigm shift that's happening. What made 23andMe different is that (a) they got YOUR consent, (b) they made the information useful to YOU. So no one here should blame the people trying to help. It's always the people trying to help who face the backlash of reactionary fear and anger. Since reactionaries never ask themselves what they're not seeing.
  - dekhn 2y ago
    I think you probably meant to reply to somebody else. I was thinking of the minion when I said "you can sequence in your garage". I was agreeing that things like airborne detection exist. I'm not blaming anybody, except Anne, who was woefully naive about the business and the science. I did try to point out that most people who try to sequence things on their own mess things up because sequencing and sequence analysis is quite tricky. Svante Paabo, who helped establish that we can sequence ancient humans, acknowledged that his first few people were really just analyzing his own sequences, as he contaminated the samples while handling them. The minion is really quite limited- it's a convenient tool to have in the field, but nearly everybody who is doing serious sequencing is using larger, more expensive desktop machines in a lab.