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Israel heavily modifies all of their jets I think. Supposedly stuff like allowing the engines to run at a dangerous thrust level because of situations like “Get

Israel heavily modifies all of their jets I think. Supposedly stuff like allowing the engines to run at a dangerous thrust level because of situations like “Get there now or you won’t have a home to land in”.

throw310822 2y ago
> Get there now or you won’t have a home to land in Really? A country that engages with neighbours that are barely able to send primitive missiles, while its last generation (US) jets drop bombs straight on their capital cities any time they want, with total impunity? And you still repeat this "poor existentially threatened country" propaganda?
- kulahan 2y ago
  He is referring to highly specific types of situations, not speaking in a generic sense. It’s not about propaganda, it’s just a simple consequence of the region they’re in. As a side note, terrorists successfully attack highly developed economies all the time. Having good jets doesn’t magically negate that possibility.
- addicted 2y ago
  Even to the extent this is true (which it isn’t entirely), it’s basically only been true overnight. Israel has only recently become as strong as it is. Until very recently it could very well lose, and has lost, wars with its neighbors.
  - throw310822 2y ago
    False. You can see this from the number of losses they suffered in their military campaigns: a tiny number of casualties compared to those inflicted to their enemies. Besides, it has been clear for many decades that the US would do absolutely anything to protect Israel, which means that the forces Israel can count on to defend itself in case of a real existential threat are basically those of the entire USA.
  - vunderba 2y ago
    Define "recently". They absolutely wrecked their next-door neighbors in the Six-Day War and that was over half a century ago.
    - adwn 2y ago
      They came very close to a defeat in the first Yom Kippur war.
jonpurdy 2y ago
For reference, this is called 'battleshort'. Overriding normal/safe operating limits in order to escape a situation that would destroy the vehicle anyway.
- ashoeafoot 2y ago
  And all military vehiclrs have that!

throw310822 2y ago

> Get there now or you won’t have a home to land in Really? A country that engages with neighbours that are barely able to send primitive missiles, while its last generation (US) jets drop bombs straight on their capital cities any time they want, with total impunity? And you still repeat this "poor existentially threatened country" propaganda?

kulahan 2y ago
He is referring to highly specific types of situations, not speaking in a generic sense. It’s not about propaganda, it’s just a simple consequence of the region they’re in. As a side note, terrorists successfully attack highly developed economies all the time. Having good jets doesn’t magically negate that possibility.
addicted 2y ago
Even to the extent this is true (which it isn’t entirely), it’s basically only been true overnight. Israel has only recently become as strong as it is. Until very recently it could very well lose, and has lost, wars with its neighbors.
- throw310822 2y ago
  False. You can see this from the number of losses they suffered in their military campaigns: a tiny number of casualties compared to those inflicted to their enemies. Besides, it has been clear for many decades that the US would do absolutely anything to protect Israel, which means that the forces Israel can count on to defend itself in case of a real existential threat are basically those of the entire USA.
- vunderba 2y ago
  Define "recently". They absolutely wrecked their next-door neighbors in the Six-Day War and that was over half a century ago.
  - adwn 2y ago
    They came very close to a defeat in the first Yom Kippur war.

jonpurdy 2y ago

For reference, this is called 'battleshort'. Overriding normal/safe operating limits in order to escape a situation that would destroy the vehicle anyway.

ashoeafoot 2y ago
And all military vehiclrs have that!