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But this isn't automated. This is user-driven.

jrflowers 2y ago
If this feature isn’t already part of the Claude API it likely will be at some point, in which case many Claude requests will be automated with no way to distinguish between user-driven or otherwise.
- pixl97 2y ago
  Simply put, at the end of the day you lose, AI blocking will not work. I mean, currently the AI request comes from the datacenter running the AI, but eventually one of two things will happen. AI models will get small/fast enough to run on user hardware and use the users resources: End result? You lose. The user will set their own headers and sites will play the impossible game of identifying AI. AI sites will figure out how to route the requests via any number of potential methods so the requests appear to come from the user anyway: End result? You lose. The sites attempting to block will play the cat and mouse game of figuring out what is AI or not AI. Note, this doesn't mean AI blocking isn't worth doing, if nothing else to reduce load on the servers. It's just not a long term winning strategy.
  - ipaddr 2y ago
    Welcome to the world of CAPTCHAs
    - pixl97 2y ago
      Heh, I'm always reminded of dunkey when captchas are brought up. It seems AI gets better faster at them than humans do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqnXp6Saa8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqnXp6Saa8Y
  - jimbokun 2y ago
    Depends if the legal system survives. You may not be able to stop AIs from crawling web sites through technological means. But you can confiscate all the resources of the company that owns the AI.
  - hooverd 2y ago
    Ideally bad behavior by AI companies should trigger crushing fines and jail time for executives.
jimbokun 2y ago
It’s clearly not. The human user is not requesting the resource. The AI is.
- wraptile 2y ago
  It's clearly not. The human user is not requesting the resouce. The web browser is. Where do we stop here? at "please drink a verification can and maintain eye contact at all times"?

If this feature isn’t already part of the Claude API it likely will be at some point, in which case many Claude requests will be automated with no way to distinguish between user-driven or otherwise.

pixl97 2y ago
Simply put, at the end of the day you lose, AI blocking will not work. I mean, currently the AI request comes from the datacenter running the AI, but eventually one of two things will happen. AI models will get small/fast enough to run on user hardware and use the users resources: End result? You lose. The user will set their own headers and sites will play the impossible game of identifying AI. AI sites will figure out how to route the requests via any number of potential methods so the requests appear to come from the user anyway: End result? You lose. The sites attempting to block will play the cat and mouse game of figuring out what is AI or not AI. Note, this doesn't mean AI blocking isn't worth doing, if nothing else to reduce load on the servers. It's just not a long term winning strategy.
- ipaddr 2y ago
  Welcome to the world of CAPTCHAs
  - pixl97 2y ago
    Heh, I'm always reminded of dunkey when captchas are brought up. It seems AI gets better faster at them than humans do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqnXp6Saa8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqnXp6Saa8Y
- jimbokun 2y ago
  Depends if the legal system survives. You may not be able to stop AIs from crawling web sites through technological means. But you can confiscate all the resources of the company that owns the AI.
- hooverd 2y ago
  Ideally bad behavior by AI companies should trigger crushing fines and jail time for executives.

jimbokun 2y ago

It’s clearly not. The human user is not requesting the resource. The AI is.

wraptile 2y ago
It's clearly not. The human user is not requesting the resouce. The web browser is. Where do we stop here? at "please drink a verification can and maintain eye contact at all times"?