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Immigration enforcement isn't pretty anywhere, but also happens everywhere. For instance literally every single story of somebody being detained/deported from a
by somenameforme 2y ago
Immigration enforcement isn't pretty anywhere, but also happens everywhere. For instance literally every single story of somebody being detained/deported from anywhere for working without a work permit is going to be a sad story because it's obviously somebody just trying to live a decent productive life, but ending up in jail and then deported (perhaps losing their belongings/pets/etc in the process) because they were born in a different country.
Trying to frame this as 'America only' is extremely disingenuous by the media. There will be numerically significantly more events in America because America is a relatively large country and previous lapses in immigration enforcement have created dumb situations like having some 435,000 illegal aliens with criminal records! [1] But there's nothing particularly exceptional. Rather it's just the media fishing for the worst of the worst, and trying to frame it as representative, like usual.
Dog bites man isn't news, man bites dog is.
[1] - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-deported-fewer-people-biden-year-ago-border-crossings-plummeted-rcna195605 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-dep...
- peppers-ghost 2y agoWhich other country is deporting people to concentration camps controlled by the military on foreign land?
- somenameforme 2y agoYou mean those few hundred gang bangers that were brutal enough that even their home countries wouldn't accept them back? It's a common issue in South America where criminal thugs from one country will cross into another, and then their host country will not take them back. I can't find reliable outcomes of what happens to these people in the media for some reason...
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- peppers-ghost 2y agoSome of the people that got dragged to Guantanamo didn't even have charges
- orwin 2y agoI've been detained in Morocco (while they had issues in the territory they consider "their" south), they've been nothing but polite. I had to wait a night in a cell, but i wasn't chained, i was fed surprisingly good food and they did send me back as soon as possible (my insurance paid for it i think). The fact that tourists with Visa issues (mine was because of geopolitics and my father's place of birth rather than a bad visa) can and do stay more than a day in cells, with chains? I would expect that in Salvador or some SEA countries, not the US.
- somenameforme 2y agoAbsolutely and that's probably the average case. Now take the hundreds of thousands of other people that have run into issues, and take the 0.1% most extreme cases. This makes up essentially 100% of what you read in the media. For instance this case actually started when Canada refused entry to her for fear she was attempting to work illegally. [1] The led to a suspension of her "visa waiver" (I assume a visa on arrival scheme) and a subsequent detainment/investigation on the US side which also determined she was working illegally and thus subject to detention and deportation. To say it's an unusual case is an understatement, but all you will read about in the media is unusual cases. [1] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c80y3yx1jdyo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c80y3yx1jdyo