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I mean there’s pretty low hanging fruit mentioned in the article. If rail strikes are frequent enough to feature in the formula, end the strikes by paying the w

I mean there’s pretty low hanging fruit mentioned in the article. If rail strikes are frequent enough to feature in the formula, end the strikes by paying the workers well.

Ray20 2y ago
You don't understand how this works, do you? By paying workers because of strikes, you are increasing the number of strikes.
- crowselect 2y ago
  Any evidence for that, or is this entirely opinion?
sksksk 2y ago
Paying train workers what they are demanding is expensive
- Symbiote 2y ago
  British train drivers are the best paid in Europe by a staggering amount. https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/12/23/train-strikes-these-are-the-countries-that-pay-train-drivers-the-most-and-the-least-in-eur https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/12/23/train-strikes-the...
  - oniony 2y ago
    And the average UK citizen seems to have a huge problem with that, but seems to be completely happy with private train company executives getting paid obscene amounts and train companies paying out huge dividends when the services are so bad. Why do people resent train drivers getting paid well?
    - pbhjpbhj 2y ago
      Because the media tells them to. When train workers demanded inflationary pay maintenance the highest train driver pay was splashed all over the media in an attempt to get workers to hate one another and ignore the execs and shareholders walking off with all the money.
      - londons_explore 2y ago
        There shouldn't be any money to walk off with whilst services are more expensive and less good than most other countries. Creating a market for a natural monopoly like train travel should always include simulated competition against other remote geographies (ie. France), and financial penalties for losing that competition.
  - Nextgrid 2y ago
    This is 2021 figures. Wondering how this would change for cost of living and especially rent/housing inflation.
  - WindyMiller 2y ago
    Of course, train drivers aren't the only rail workers, and pay isn't the only reason for strikes.

I mean there’s pretty low hanging fruit mentioned in the article. If rail strikes are frequent enough to feature in the formula, end the strikes by paying the workers well.

Ray20 2y ago

You don't understand how this works, do you? By paying workers because of strikes, you are increasing the number of strikes.

crowselect 2y ago
Any evidence for that, or is this entirely opinion?

sksksk 2y ago

Paying train workers what they are demanding is expensive

Symbiote 2y ago
British train drivers are the best paid in Europe by a staggering amount. https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/12/23/train-strikes-these-are-the-countries-that-pay-train-drivers-the-most-and-the-least-in-eur https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/12/23/train-strikes-the...
- oniony 2y ago
  And the average UK citizen seems to have a huge problem with that, but seems to be completely happy with private train company executives getting paid obscene amounts and train companies paying out huge dividends when the services are so bad. Why do people resent train drivers getting paid well?
  - pbhjpbhj 2y ago
    Because the media tells them to. When train workers demanded inflationary pay maintenance the highest train driver pay was splashed all over the media in an attempt to get workers to hate one another and ignore the execs and shareholders walking off with all the money.
    - londons_explore 2y ago
      There shouldn't be any money to walk off with whilst services are more expensive and less good than most other countries. Creating a market for a natural monopoly like train travel should always include simulated competition against other remote geographies (ie. France), and financial penalties for losing that competition.
- Nextgrid 2y ago
  This is 2021 figures. Wondering how this would change for cost of living and especially rent/housing inflation.
- WindyMiller 2y ago
  Of course, train drivers aren't the only rail workers, and pay isn't the only reason for strikes.