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Yep I've been thinking BYD is just some Chinese brand that's only in China, but I saw one on the road in the UK recently and looked it up and they actually have
by IshKebab 2y ago
Yep I've been thinking BYD is just some Chinese brand that's only in China, but I saw one on the road in the UK recently and looked it up and they actually have something like 80 showrooms in the UK already. Way more than Tesla.
Maybe making a dumb triangular truck that nobody wanted wasn't such a good idea after all. I imagine the BYD cars have such mod cons as rain sensors that work and indicator stalks too.
- silverquiet 2y agoI saw one in the US a few weeks ago that had a Mexican license plate. Pretty interesting because I'm aware of the brand but had not seen one in person.
- xrd 2y agoHmm. Does this mean they are street legal? I'm baffled by the multiple levels of irony if you could go into Mexico and buy an EV that you can then use in the US. That would make even Elon's head twist off.
- blovescoffee 2y agoOf course they’re street legal? You just can’t buy them in the US. They’re all over Mexico and they’re great.
- swarnie 2y agoWhy "Of course" ? If they aren't sold in the US why the automatic assumption that they conform to US automotive legislation?
- pjc50 2y agoYeah, I was wondering about that. Someone in the UK had a Cybertruck confiscated by the police because they're not approved here. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz0lldd30xlo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz0lldd30xlo
- infecto 2y agoNot sure why its baffling. If you are near the border you will quite often see out of country plates (Canada/Mexico). I am guessing you would still need some kind residency to purchase the vehicle. Not sure what it's like today but historically crash standards in Mexico did not exist. Toyota for the longest time was selling 20+y/o models as brand new. The crash tests of those were startling. It may have improved in the last few years though.
- numpad0 2y agoYou can lawfully drive through land borders in most countries, with permits and such. The plates don't change themselves when you do that.
- e-brake 2y agoTons of them on the streets in Guadalajara
- pimeys 2y agoIn Helsinki all new electric busses are BYD's. Have been for some years already.
- Gud 2y agoNot surprising, BYD is the worlds biggest producer of electric buses! They even have a factory in the US.
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- d3nj4l 2y agoI saw BYDs on the road in India. There's a 110% tariff on foreign EVs in India - and people are still buying them.
- porridgeraisin 2y agoYep. Chennai here. Saw one the other day.
- romanovcode 2y agoThe only reason BYD was heavily "censored"/tariffed was because US said EU to do so. Now that US soft-power is waning (800b from EU + 500b from Germany alone for militech) the floodgates might open and it will way surpass the Tesla. Maybe even some partnership between BMW/VW/Daimler with BYD can come out of it - imagine that.
- joakleaf 2y agoThe official reason EU added tariffs on Chinese cars, was that Chinese EV manufacturers receive unfair government subsidies. This allowed Chinese cars to be priced lower than European cars. So it was to protect EU car manufacturers (which are still struggling a bit with EVs). I don't think it was US "soft-power". However, the EU may impose tariffs on US produced cars as part of the coming trade-war, which may hurt Tesla in future (or maybe not as they also produce Tesla cars in Germany).
- aaomidi 2y agoWhen we give Tesla owners 7500 USD to buy a tesla, that’s an “unfair government subsidy”.
- romanovcode 2y agoYou are right, but you miss one critical part. EU did not impose those same tariffs on Tesla, which arguably disrupted the EU EV market even heavier, which is in very similar category, especially now that Elon is basically the president.
- tpm 2y ago> EU did not impose those same tariffs on Tesla Presumably it didn't have evidence Tesla is receiving unfair help from the Chinese state. It had such evidence for other manufacturers. Also, Tesla has a factory in the EU. Soon, the Chinese manufacturers will have factories too.
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- pjc50 2y agoI've been keeping an eye on BYD and they're just starting to appear in the UK, but there are already quite a few MG EVs - the old British brand MG was bought by a Chinese company. There's a light blue non-metallic colour which seems to be one of their standard colours and is very distinctive. Also Flexbus running Chinese buses.
- HarHarVeryFunny 2y agoBYD Han is basically what Tesla model 3 promised to be - very nice $25K car. https://www.gneenev.com/product/electric-cars-ev/484.html https://www.gneenev.com/product/electric-cars-ev/484.html In the US best selling Tesla is Model Y, but even without the brand damage I'm not sure that type of design/price is going to do well in the UK, and Cybertruck is not well suited to UK's narrower roads (esp. in city).
- numpad0 2y agoDo anyone know why American brands never seem to agree to slim down cars by ~15% for export sales? IIUC, excessive width universal to every American cars including all Tesla models was always a massive detrimental factor outside US for past ~50 years.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 2y agoCars aren't like iPhones, and shipping cars across oceans really only makes sense for luxury vehicles, which is the real reason why Chinese cars aren't available in the U.S. yet. Most non-luxury foreign cars available for sale in the U.S. are actually assembled in factories in Mexico or the United States. If Ford wanted to sell cars to the E.U. (competitively), they'd design smaller models and manufacture them in Europe. If BYD wants to sell cars in the U.S., they'll built out a plant in Mexico.
- IshKebab 2y agoFord does sell cars in the EU. They're an extremely popular brand in the UK. They just sell normal sized cars, not F150s.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 2y agoThen the comment I was replying to was incorrect.
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