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He is suggesting the opposite. Attacking every company run by someone you disagree with politically is a recipe for not being able to participate in society in

He is suggesting the opposite. Attacking every company run by someone you disagree with politically is a recipe for not being able to participate in society in any meaningful way. Musk's views are quite normal and are shared by people involved in every company and institution out there. Are you going to boycott them all? These boycotts only work as isolated, selective outrage. It is the same with countries. If you wanted to be consistent, you'd have to boycott every country in the world. They all do some bad things.

supportengineer 2y ago
>> Musk's views are quite normal Citation please
- _bin_ 2y ago
  a majority of the American people voted for the guy who explicitly and repeatedly campaigned with him. that's a pretty solid citation.
  - gainda 2y ago
    I wouldn't be so quick to say a 'majority of the American people.' The 'majority' that voted for him is only about 31% of the voting-eligible population.
    - _bin_ 2y ago
      right. with the availability of early voting, that implies that most of that 69% didn't care enough either way. it was a pretty close election, probably with a slight edge going in for Harris, so that would tend to cause more would-be Trump voters to stay home. in other words, there are plenty of valid complaints, but "abnormal" or denying a clear democratic mandate aren't any of them.
EnergyAmy 2y ago
Throwing around Nazi salutes is normal? Are you writing this from an evil mirror universe?
- assimpleaspossi 2y ago
  You, and most who believe that, are ignoring the part where he said something like, "My heart goes out to you!" as he threw his hand from his heart out to the people in the crowd.
  - llm_nerd 2y ago
    No one is ignoring that, and it's bizarre seeing people defend Musk in such a ridiculous fashion. The plausible deniability angle would hit a little better if Musk hadn't also been endorsing a number of Nazi-adjacent parties and views, pushed literal white nationalist views repeatedly (which he has been doing for years -- he isn't concerned about birth rates, he is literally only worried about white birth rates while he runs his creepy birthing farm down in Texas, and that's aside from his endless "empathy is our weakness" attacks on migrants), and most recently literally excused Hitler on the basis that really it's the public servants who are to blame. It's quite incredible really. If the guy wasn't already absolutely soaked with extremely far right rhetoric and beliefs -- save the absurd "oh he's a centrist" nonsense that zero people believe if they have any functioning grey matter at all -- it might have been excusable as something that just looked concerning.
  - gainda 2y ago
    You're already misremembering what actually happened - that he says that after two vigorous salutes.
    - assimpleaspossi 2y ago
      And how does that change anything?
      - gainda 2y ago
outer_web 2y ago
Absolutely, it is impossible to draw a line based on, say how evil the person is or how much they are trying to spread the evil. Because anyone can be evil, we simply cannot take action against anyone!

supportengineer 2y ago

>> Musk's views are quite normal Citation please

_bin_ 2y ago
a majority of the American people voted for the guy who explicitly and repeatedly campaigned with him. that's a pretty solid citation.
- gainda 2y ago
  I wouldn't be so quick to say a 'majority of the American people.' The 'majority' that voted for him is only about 31% of the voting-eligible population.
  - _bin_ 2y ago
    right. with the availability of early voting, that implies that most of that 69% didn't care enough either way. it was a pretty close election, probably with a slight edge going in for Harris, so that would tend to cause more would-be Trump voters to stay home. in other words, there are plenty of valid complaints, but "abnormal" or denying a clear democratic mandate aren't any of them.

EnergyAmy 2y ago

Throwing around Nazi salutes is normal? Are you writing this from an evil mirror universe?

assimpleaspossi 2y ago
You, and most who believe that, are ignoring the part where he said something like, "My heart goes out to you!" as he threw his hand from his heart out to the people in the crowd.
- llm_nerd 2y ago
  No one is ignoring that, and it's bizarre seeing people defend Musk in such a ridiculous fashion. The plausible deniability angle would hit a little better if Musk hadn't also been endorsing a number of Nazi-adjacent parties and views, pushed literal white nationalist views repeatedly (which he has been doing for years -- he isn't concerned about birth rates, he is literally only worried about white birth rates while he runs his creepy birthing farm down in Texas, and that's aside from his endless "empathy is our weakness" attacks on migrants), and most recently literally excused Hitler on the basis that really it's the public servants who are to blame. It's quite incredible really. If the guy wasn't already absolutely soaked with extremely far right rhetoric and beliefs -- save the absurd "oh he's a centrist" nonsense that zero people believe if they have any functioning grey matter at all -- it might have been excusable as something that just looked concerning.
- gainda 2y ago
  You're already misremembering what actually happened - that he says that after two vigorous salutes.
  - assimpleaspossi 2y ago
    And how does that change anything?
    - gainda 2y ago

outer_web 2y ago

Absolutely, it is impossible to draw a line based on, say how evil the person is or how much they are trying to spread the evil. Because anyone can be evil, we simply cannot take action against anyone!