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It really is telling how much the Elon backlash is targeted at Tesla instead of say Twitter or any of the other companies. It's ok to admit you don't like the

It really is telling how much the Elon backlash is targeted at Tesla instead of say Twitter or any of the other companies. It's ok to admit you don't like the cars or the FSD fud. But if you really don't like the guy why are you giving the other companies a pass?

_moof 2y ago
The belief is that Musk's wealth is mostly tied up in Tesla. I have no idea if it's true, but that's what underlies the focus on Tesla as opposed to, say, SpaceX. By hurting Tesla and bringing down its value, the idea is that Musk himself is brought down.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y ago
  > The belief is that Musk's wealth is mostly tied up in Tesla. DDG’s search AI answer thing told me that Musk owns 410M shares of Tesla, which is priced roughly at $224 per share, which is about $90B of his supposed $305B net worth.
outer_web 2y ago
Plenty of people have quit twitter, others are victims of their own social media addiction but are at least simply using a free service rather than paying 30k+. Most probably haven't launched a satellite in recent months but could be looking at alternatives. I haven't done the work to compare auto CEOs but one of them has gone well out of his way to make his shitty opinions unavoidable.
- Shanesan 2y ago
  > others are victims of their own social media addiction but are at least simply using a free service rather than paying 30k+ Yeah, well many Tesla owners are victims of wanting to do better for the environment in the way that they could before Elon went full psyop. The difference here is that Twitter users are still actively perpetrating and reinforcing his platform to speak dangerous nonsense. The Tesla income was reported on a shareholder filing, for many, before 2020, and realistically doesn't matter anymore. If someone still has Twitter, they are shockingly accepting of the goings on.
kgwxd 2y ago
What? Constant calls to leave twitter, cheers when Space X ships explode, praise for other countries when they ditch StarLink...
TheAceOfHearts 2y ago
Come on, it's pretty obvious that Tesla is the easiest company to target because they have a lot of real-world products and locations. Any regular person could go to a protest at a Tesla dealership. If someone wanted to boycott SpaceX there's not much they could do. The same people that hate Elon have probably already moved to alternative social media platforms, but that's not as impactful and it doesn't get as much attention as the car protests. Since Twitter isn't an open data platform and they don't allow third party research, it's hard to figure out real world usage patterns.
- nebula8804 2y ago
  Engineers can go to SpaceX and Starlink competitors and work to finally build some meaningful competition. At this point the US government cannot toss Musk to the curb even if they wanted to. If the republicans ever lose again, the next administrator wouldn't hesitate to command NASA to use another vendor(if they had one).
patcon 2y ago
Nothing anyone can do to Twitter or Boring Company matters. Cars are high-priced consumer objects that sit in public. They are high impact objects. And cars have always been symbolic identity objects in western culture. It's totally rational to target Tesla and ignore spending effort on the rest
- lesuorac 2y ago
  > Nothing anyone can do to Twitter or Boring Company matters. Well, afaik the Boring Company hasn't done anything since 2021 [1] so I'll agree there. However, Twitter is very much not the case. Elon very much reads what people post there otherwise he wouldn't bother to censor the mothers of his kids. If there was a 50% decline in viewership he'd definitely notice. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company
  - tim333 2y ago
    Yeah but there are probably a million people slagging him on X. One more won't get noticed unless you are famous or something.
    - nebula8804 2y ago
      The algorithm must be surfacing only the pro elon content. I mostly see the pro stuff in his responses, anything anti is buried.
  - nebula8804 2y ago
    TBC is still operational in Vegas and is shuttling people all day. I rode them during DEFCON and the sad employees are fully bought into this "mission" of revolutionizing transport. It seems so stupid driving through these tunnels, the novelty wears off instantly.
nebula8804 2y ago
Twitter is a cesspool and the rise of Bluesky, Threads, and Mastodon have managed to eat away at a lot of the left and centrist leaning Twitter user base. You could argue that the only value it has left is the influence it can enact during this right wing wave. What will happen afterwards? Probably that recent rise in valuation to bring it back to Musk's purchase price will reverse and then it will be tossed in the dumpster.

_moof 2y ago

The belief is that Musk's wealth is mostly tied up in Tesla. I have no idea if it's true, but that's what underlies the focus on Tesla as opposed to, say, SpaceX. By hurting Tesla and bringing down its value, the idea is that Musk himself is brought down.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y ago
> The belief is that Musk's wealth is mostly tied up in Tesla. DDG’s search AI answer thing told me that Musk owns 410M shares of Tesla, which is priced roughly at $224 per share, which is about $90B of his supposed $305B net worth.

outer_web 2y ago

Plenty of people have quit twitter, others are victims of their own social media addiction but are at least simply using a free service rather than paying 30k+. Most probably haven't launched a satellite in recent months but could be looking at alternatives. I haven't done the work to compare auto CEOs but one of them has gone well out of his way to make his shitty opinions unavoidable.

Shanesan 2y ago
> others are victims of their own social media addiction but are at least simply using a free service rather than paying 30k+ Yeah, well many Tesla owners are victims of wanting to do better for the environment in the way that they could before Elon went full psyop. The difference here is that Twitter users are still actively perpetrating and reinforcing his platform to speak dangerous nonsense. The Tesla income was reported on a shareholder filing, for many, before 2020, and realistically doesn't matter anymore. If someone still has Twitter, they are shockingly accepting of the goings on.

kgwxd 2y ago

What? Constant calls to leave twitter, cheers when Space X ships explode, praise for other countries when they ditch StarLink...

TheAceOfHearts 2y ago

Come on, it's pretty obvious that Tesla is the easiest company to target because they have a lot of real-world products and locations. Any regular person could go to a protest at a Tesla dealership. If someone wanted to boycott SpaceX there's not much they could do. The same people that hate Elon have probably already moved to alternative social media platforms, but that's not as impactful and it doesn't get as much attention as the car protests. Since Twitter isn't an open data platform and they don't allow third party research, it's hard to figure out real world usage patterns.

nebula8804 2y ago
Engineers can go to SpaceX and Starlink competitors and work to finally build some meaningful competition. At this point the US government cannot toss Musk to the curb even if they wanted to. If the republicans ever lose again, the next administrator wouldn't hesitate to command NASA to use another vendor(if they had one).

patcon 2y ago

Nothing anyone can do to Twitter or Boring Company matters. Cars are high-priced consumer objects that sit in public. They are high impact objects. And cars have always been symbolic identity objects in western culture. It's totally rational to target Tesla and ignore spending effort on the rest

lesuorac 2y ago
> Nothing anyone can do to Twitter or Boring Company matters. Well, afaik the Boring Company hasn't done anything since 2021 [1] so I'll agree there. However, Twitter is very much not the case. Elon very much reads what people post there otherwise he wouldn't bother to censor the mothers of his kids. If there was a 50% decline in viewership he'd definitely notice. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company
- tim333 2y ago
  Yeah but there are probably a million people slagging him on X. One more won't get noticed unless you are famous or something.
  - nebula8804 2y ago
    The algorithm must be surfacing only the pro elon content. I mostly see the pro stuff in his responses, anything anti is buried.
- nebula8804 2y ago
  TBC is still operational in Vegas and is shuttling people all day. I rode them during DEFCON and the sad employees are fully bought into this "mission" of revolutionizing transport. It seems so stupid driving through these tunnels, the novelty wears off instantly.

nebula8804 2y ago

Twitter is a cesspool and the rise of Bluesky, Threads, and Mastodon have managed to eat away at a lot of the left and centrist leaning Twitter user base. You could argue that the only value it has left is the influence it can enact during this right wing wave. What will happen afterwards? Probably that recent rise in valuation to bring it back to Musk's purchase price will reverse and then it will be tossed in the dumpster.