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IRRC The official explanation is that there were a few autopsies going on at the same time in that facility and it came from the body next to hers. The public o
by mrtksn 2y ago
IRRC The official explanation is that there were a few autopsies going on at the same time in that facility and it came from the body next to hers. The public opinion was that they bribed the technician to contaminate her body.
The whole case is a huge mess with attempts of cover ups, months long manhunts and all kinds of conspiracy theories. The killer was sentenced to 24 years of prison but unalived himself in prison and there're still conspiracy theories saying that he actually escaped to China because he was studying Chinese in prison prior that. This happened more than 10 years ago and last year they opened his grave to check the remains and again it was confirmed that that's him. Yet, this is still not enough to end the public discussion and conspiracy theories.
Anyway, if anyone is curious this is the case in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Münevver_Karabulut https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Münevver_Karabulut
Unfortunately, the juicy literature around that is mostly in Turkish.
- bozhark 2y agoYou can say he killed himself it’s not kitkots
- genewitch 2y agoTiktots?
- nkrisc 2y ago> unalived himself In English the phrase is “killed himself”.
- mrtksn 2y agoFeel free to use your choice of synonym when you are writing something.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoNormally I'm more than happy to roll with someone's choice of words - if you want to use "literally" to describe things that are not literal, please, fill your skibidi or whatever, but I'm hostile towards it when it's an attempt to appease a corporation's filters. I get it, you gotta use it where you gotta use it, but I hate the indicators that our language is being filtered everywhere by certain social media's moderation rules. That's not language changing because of fresh eyes, it's because of tired eyes looking towards the bottom dollar.
- mrtksn 2y agoIt's not about filters, I like using unalive in the context of suicide when I have no sympathy to the person who dies. It's such a nice dehumanizing word.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoBut it's entered the vernacular because of the filters.
- mrtksn 2y agoThat's true, some day in the future somebody will make 5 seconds long, long format documentary about the fascinating origins of the word :) It has a passive aggressive character, I like that word a lot.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoI get the opposite out of it. Using the negative prefix weakens the word, emphasizing what it is not instead of what it is, when act like suicide is not just the state of being not alive. The phrasing isn't committed enough to be oxymoronic and it ends up feeling impersonal and indirect. But maybe I'm just an old man yelling at a cloud.
- kube-system 2y agoPick any sentence and trace the words back to their origin and you'll find some sort of story about where it was borrowed from. That's just how language works. It isn't anything new -- we're all just older than we've ever been. Every generation coins new terms.
- nkrisc 2y agoI only mentioned it because it took me a few moments to figure out what you had actually written since I assumed it was a typo or mistranslation. It distracts from what you’ve written.
- unwind 2y agoTIL that the kids actually use it [1], and it's in dictionaries [2] etc so arguably it's actually English. [1]: https://medium.com/new-writers-welcome/unalive-the-birth-of-a-terrible-new-word-216b8d452190 https://medium.com/new-writers-welcome/unalive-the-birth-of-... [2]: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/unalive https://www.dictionary.com/browse/unalive Edit: typo.
- weberer 2y agoThey only say it to avoid word filters on certain algorithm-driven sites. Your comment won't be automatically flagged, demoted, or shadow banned here for using naughty words that corporate advertisers don't like.
- skyyler 2y agoSurely you can understand that when certain behaviours or phrases become fashionable, they can become detached from the culture that generated them.
- accrual 2y agoI'm in agreement, but one thought that crossed my mind is how the population in China self-censors and I wonder if this is kind of like that. Rather than tailor the terminology to different environments, the person just chooses the "safe" term all the time.
- skyyler 2y agoWhen was the last time you were in China? I'm curious about this self-censoring you're talking about. Did you observe it personally?
- kossae 2y agoThere are 10s if not 100s of articles on it, and even a paper written about it: https://as.nyu.edu/content/dam/nyu-as/politics/documents/Thesis.Zhen.Kevin.pdf https://as.nyu.edu/content/dam/nyu-as/politics/documents/The.... One does not have to be in China or observe it personally to know of its existence.