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This. As someone who works for a US company from Europe, there are no financial alternatives. I need to get my kids through college.
by rcarmo 2y ago
This. As someone who works for a US company from Europe, there are no financial alternatives. I need to get my kids through college.
- omnimus 2y agoI wonder how other europeans get their kids through collage? Hmm maybe because its super cheap compared to US? Please do work for US company from Europe thats great. Just lets not put it on college and your kids.
- pm3003 2y agoThey just glue them together I guess.
- poisonborz 2y agoWhich EU country has comparable tuition fees to the US? Do yor kids go to some UK private university?
- menaerus 2y agoWho's in the better position? Me completing a Masters degree in the EU, spending anywhere between 10k and 20k EUR, and landing a job that pays 30k EUR/year and living a pipe dream of getting myself salaried with 100k EUR, and only perhaps after 10-15 years of continous effort (and luck). Or is it someone in the States who needs to spend as much as 5x more for the same level of degree (but not education and opportunities!) - but in the very first year of employment gets 100k per year and has a vast more opportunities to build their careers up?
- apexalpha 2y agoMy perspective: I'm an (Technical) Information Security Officer in the Netherlands and I'm at €120k if I include pension contributions (Which Dutch people almost never include in their 'gross' salary). And this is with all the employee protections you get when being salaried in the Netherlands. If you elect to go for a more American style contract with your employer where you have little to no protection you can easily make €200k or more. Two of my colleagues get €20k a month. Downside is that they're the first to go since they're more expensive and the company can just let you go for whatever reason they want essentially any time your contract is up for renewal. These are called 'independent contractors' in my country but essentially they are just employed 'at will' as Americans call it. I feel like most people online that complain about €30k salaries in Europe (which is minimum wage here by the way) are just parroting online meme talking points.
- Aeolun 2y agoDo you see any prospects of increasing that €120k? Because that’s one of my biggest issues with Europe.
- apexalpha 2y agoWell since I'm salaried it grows with (at least) the rate of inflation, thanks to unions. Also I'm 32 now so yeah I don't plan to stop investing and growing yet. Perhaps I will also swap to the independant contractor model in the future but for now I'm content with all the extra benefits being salaried brings.
- Aeolun 2y agoLol, ok. Yeah, at 32 with €120k salaried I think you are pretty well off. Especially compared to the median in that area.
- apexalpha 2y agoYes, all IT people in the Netherlands have benefitted from Brexit and Covid, indirectly. Companies shifting HQ's and hiring Dutch people remotely at London salaries has pushed up our compensation considerably in the last few years.
- menaerus 2y ago> are just parroting online meme talking points This is a great way of discrediting somebody's else opinion and also incredibly a very rude one. I earn more than you do but that's besides the point since I'm most likely in 95th percentile of the market. The point that you're missing and that I'm trying to reinforce regardless of the very good position I'm in is that 50th percentile of the market is not anywhere near +100k EUR figure. I worked with 100s engineers across different domains in Europe so the sample size should be pretty representative. I also hired many engineers so I am familiar with the market value as well. Finally, you're also missing the point that your sample of dutch market isn't representative of all European countries markets.
- rcarmo 2y agoDo you think that is just about tuition?
- Aeolun 2y agoThat’s the weirdest reason ever. If I were in Europe I could not work at all and put my kids through college.