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I’m afraid the only thing we can do at this point is gun for an economic depression, ride out three years of that just like with Hoover (1929–33), and upgrade t
by labster 2y ago
I’m afraid the only thing we can do at this point is gun for an economic depression, ride out three years of that just like with Hoover (1929–33), and upgrade to New Deal 2.0 beta. There’s no amount of protests that can convince the median Trump voter that anything is wrong in America unless it affects him personally. And no amount of protest will convince Trump that he has made a single mistake in his entire life.
- xmprt 2y agoI should have a bit more faith but at this point I feel like the median voter might see their world getting worse but still be convinced somehow that Democrats are behind it because Republicans have their messaging on point and Democrats are doing the equivalent of a silent protest.
- zonkerdonker 2y agoTurns out, propoganda really does work. Just takes a few billionaires, a few hostile nations states, and some exploitable algorithms
- alabastervlog 2y agoAnd a multi-decade effort to shift courts toward a certain flavor of right wing perspective, so you can get a ruling like Citizens United, among others.
- amelius 2y agoWe need to have a close look at free speech, especially now that techniques from psychological warfare are being used, not only in political propaganda but even in advertisements.
- deesep 2y agoI suspect Democrats remain silent because they believe nothing new can be said about Trump's policies. His supporters will counter any argument, so it's better to step back and let them experience Trump 2.0 without distractions. Over time, they may realize the harm he causes.
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- speed_spread 2y agoExcept it won't work, they will retro justify the leopard eating their face to their death bed, taking down everybody with them as they do so. Their reasoning isn't just impervious to logical arguments from others, it also resists the painful reality and consequences of their choices. It's a media induced debilitating mental illness.
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- bruce511 2y agoAll democrats really need to say is "you voted for this". None of these actions are surprising so far, they were all well telegraphed before the election. In a year or so when there's truly new stuff to complain about the ln the message becomes "you voted for them".
- labster 2y agoProtip: voters don’t like to be blamed for their actions, it makes them defensive, this is a losing strategy. Voters like to blame politicians for letting them down.
- bruce511 2y agoVoters might not like being blamed. But that doesn't make it "not their fault". If the get defensive I just shrug and repeat "you voted for this".
- pjc50 2y agoIt's very likely that they're going to Liz Truss the budget, but without any comparable way of dealing with the consequences by swiftly removing the bad actors. (when exactly is that anyway? I'm dimly aware of some drama with continuing resolutions)
- DFHippie 2y agoIt's over. The Republicans larded up the CR with poison pills and dared the Democrats to block it. Chuck Shumer, the leader of the Democrats in the Senate, didn't have the stomach to do so, fearing the populace would be convinced all the resulting harms of a government shutdown would be pinned on the Democrats. He's probably right. They did vote for Trump twice in sufficient numbers to give him power. Anyway, that was the only point of leverage the Democrats had and now it's gone. In Shumer's calculation they never had it anyway.
- mystraline 2y agoThe democrats haven't been fighting for the 0-99% class for quite some time. Its been special cause this, social rage that. Its unsurprising that when republicans finally get a chance to demolish basically every social program, they would not get stopped by democrats. (Aside a few progressives like AOC, Sanders, Ilhan, etc)
- Hikikomori 2y agoShould have happened in 2008.