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We already knew this to be true by the clusters of Tesla fatalities around certain bay area off ramps.

sMarsIntruder 2y ago
This statement goes against any report and analysis on basic autopilot, not even FSD. Just like the video, that if you’d take some time to watch l, you’d see that’s just basic autopilot. Data is saying other things, but if we want to deny gravity, I’m ok with it.
- sitkack 2y ago
  Chill bro, you can have FSD when it comes out.
- sumeno 2y ago
  What data? If you link to Tesla statements that's marketing not data.
  - sMarsIntruder 2y ago
    https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport Ok, this is marketing.
    - sumeno 2y ago
      Yes, it is, and it is a misleading comparison. It's is comparing Tesla autopilot, which can only be used in certain circumstances, to the US average which includes scenarios where autopilot wouldn't be used.
93po 2y ago
this is factually just not true, at all. like outrageously not true. why would you just completely make something up like this?
- sitkack 2y ago
  What are you talking about? 1) numerous reports of teslas not seeing tractor trailers or fire trucks. 2) numerous reports even on this site where teslas under lane assistance repeatedly and predictably behaved erratically on CA off ramps. Any optical only system will suffer from optical illusions, this cannot be avoided.
  - sitkack 2y ago
    https://thedemlabs.org/2022/12/19/tesla-autopilot-lawsuits-safety-fatalities-map/ https://thedemlabs.org/2022/12/19/tesla-autopilot-lawsuits-s... https://www.tesladeaths.com/ https://www.tesladeaths.com/
    - 93po 2y ago
      Literally at the top of the page: > Tesla Deaths is a record of Tesla accidents that involved a driver, occupant, cyclist, motorcyclist, or pedestrian death, whether or not the Tesla or its driver were at fault Even the FSD stat says "FSD related" and not "FSD at fault". Yes, Teslas are involved in accidents that cause death like literally every other car on the road. However to claim they're somehow uniquely dangerous, when in fact the stats show that they're uniquely safe, is ridiculous.
rozap 2y ago
Still love my truck though.

This statement goes against any report and analysis on basic autopilot, not even FSD. Just like the video, that if you’d take some time to watch l, you’d see that’s just basic autopilot. Data is saying other things, but if we want to deny gravity, I’m ok with it.

sitkack 2y ago
Chill bro, you can have FSD when it comes out.
sumeno 2y ago
What data? If you link to Tesla statements that's marketing not data.
- sMarsIntruder 2y ago
  https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport Ok, this is marketing.
  - sumeno 2y ago
    Yes, it is, and it is a misleading comparison. It's is comparing Tesla autopilot, which can only be used in certain circumstances, to the US average which includes scenarios where autopilot wouldn't be used.

93po 2y ago

this is factually just not true, at all. like outrageously not true. why would you just completely make something up like this?

sitkack 2y ago
What are you talking about? 1) numerous reports of teslas not seeing tractor trailers or fire trucks. 2) numerous reports even on this site where teslas under lane assistance repeatedly and predictably behaved erratically on CA off ramps. Any optical only system will suffer from optical illusions, this cannot be avoided.
- sitkack 2y ago
  https://thedemlabs.org/2022/12/19/tesla-autopilot-lawsuits-safety-fatalities-map/ https://thedemlabs.org/2022/12/19/tesla-autopilot-lawsuits-s... https://www.tesladeaths.com/ https://www.tesladeaths.com/
  - 93po 2y ago
    Literally at the top of the page: > Tesla Deaths is a record of Tesla accidents that involved a driver, occupant, cyclist, motorcyclist, or pedestrian death, whether or not the Tesla or its driver were at fault Even the FSD stat says "FSD related" and not "FSD at fault". Yes, Teslas are involved in accidents that cause death like literally every other car on the road. However to claim they're somehow uniquely dangerous, when in fact the stats show that they're uniquely safe, is ridiculous.

rozap 2y ago

Still love my truck though.