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Do developers really love beer, or is it just a myth?
- jlgreco 14y agoI will never for the life of me understand the hate people have for Corona. Granted, it should probably be classed under some yet unnamed category of beverage other than "beer", but I still like it.
- orta 14y agoI don't know if it's just my area of north England but Corona is consider quote a good drink, and you always get it with a lime.
- dllthomas 14y agoCorona with lime is tasty on a hot day with Mexican food. Like jlgreco said, though, at that point it tastes less like "beer" and more like "Corona with lime" - good, but not good beer.
- nicholassmith 14y agoIn my north east england area it is too, but a lot of the devs I know have moved onto craft (myself included, but mostly as I don't like lager much).
- crazygringo 14y agoWhen I drank Brazilian beers like Skol... Corona was like a world full of flavor in comparison. Puts things in perspective.
- 2muchcoffeeman 14y agoIt's boring that's why. It's like the Toohey's New of Mexico. Same with Stella. The Toohey's New of Belgium. So easy to do so much better.
- msbarnett 14y ago> I will never for the life of me understand the hate people have for Corona. If you have a strong sense of smell, the skunkiness is overpowering and nauseating. There are so many examples of decent light lagers out there that it's hard to understand the love people have for Corona
- jlgreco 14y agoEh, I don't consider it a replacement for other beers. Sometimes I want a nice stout or porter, sometimes I want a lighter lager, sometimes I want a glass of red wine, and sometimes I want a corona. The skunkiness certainly comes across to me, but I don't find it particularly more off-putting than the fragrance of a particularly pungent cheese.
- petercooper 14y agoDevelopers also, on average, enjoy sex, recreational activities, and going on vacation. And bacon. Never forget the bacon.
- jlgreco 14y agoContrary to popular belief, the evidence suggests that developers are in fact people.
- ryanhuff 14y agoPerhaps, but correlation does not imply causation.
- 51432 14y agoI'm vegan
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- jere 14y agoVegan bacon?
- MiguelHudnandez 14y agoI am, too. That does not greatly affect the group's average affinity. Either that or we're not "real" developers. :)
- notatoad 14y agoYou're statistically insignificant.
- jlgreco 14y agoYou can be vegan and like bacon. You just can't be vegan and eat bacon. ...I'll show myself out.
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- pavel_lishin 14y agoI wonder what the geographic breakdown was like. I'd like to see preferences in America, vs. Russia, vs. the middle east.
- jmduke 14y agoOkay, originally I was going to write this off as mere blogspam but I wanted to have some fun. Issues: 1. An ordinal scale with subjective verbiage? 2. An ordinal scale with no natural middle (there are six options!)? 3. An ordinal scale with 'select all that apply'?! How does that even work? 4. The percentages add to more than 100%! That's not how percentages work. At least normalize the scale -- or change the Y axis. There's nothing wrong with trying to promote your analysis firm (I like RedMonk!) but at least try and, you know, have good analysis.
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- fishtoaster 14y agoI could even forgive all that if they at least showed the same results for the non-dev population for comparison.
- dsberkholz 14y agoMaybe you do didn't notice, but it wasn't our survey, and we had nothing to do with its design. I agree that the design is not great, but c'mon, this is just for fun. When you can select multiple answers, the percentages no longer total 100 across options, only within each option vs all respondents.
- dsberkholz 14y agos/do didn't/didn't/
- bitops 14y agoA few good beers: * Delirium * Anchor Steam * Carlsberg * Negra Modelo Contrary to popular belief, Budweiser, Coors Lite, et. al. are not actually beers but rather beer-flavored water that also contains alcohol.
- pilsetnieks 14y agoCarlsberg?
- jardiamj 14y agoWhen somebody asks me if I want a Budweiser, Coors Lite, etc. I reply I like beer, not alcoholic water. I usually tend to go for beer in the category of porters and stouts, and ales some times. Negra Modelo is what I drink when I don't have so much choice, but I live near Portland, OR. so beer selection is usually not a problem around here.
- jlgreco 14y agoIf there is one thing I have learned in this life, it is that locals always think their region has a better than average beer scene. The reality of the situation is that (without exception that I am aware of) if you are close enough to a major city to be able to say that you are near that city with a straight face, then your beer selection is going to be just fine. I would say with hesitation that this applies to larger geographic regions as well. States, 'coasts', perhaps even countries and continents. (If I have learned anything else in life, it is that you should always be gracious when someone offers you a beer.)
- gruseom 14y agowater Hmm, the theme of the two best beer jokes. Monty Python's (pre-microbrew) "How is American beer like making love in a canoe? It's fucking close to water." – and the old brewer's joke which goes like this (I'll use your examples): A Budweiser salesman, a Coors salesman, and an Anchor Steam salesman meet in the hotel bar at a beer convention. The Budweiser man says, "I'll have a Budweiser." The Coors man says, "I'll have a Coors." The Anchor Steam man says, "Just water for me." The other two look at him and say "What? Just water?" "Well," he says, "since you guys aren't having beer I won't either."
- bherms 14y agoHow does this compare to human beings in general (and then for men vs women)... I would imagine if you looked at data outside of developers, you'd see pretty much the same results, especially when taking into account the male bias in developer culture.
- chucknelson 14y agoWhat a great article...
- Dylan16807 14y agoThis was a something people claimed? I demand another poll that asks if they've heard of the phrase 'all developers love beer' and think it's a common belief!
- evo_9 14y agoI thought the myth was developers love maryjane? Beer would seem to be a near universally loved adult beverage...
- pavel_lishin 14y agoI think coffee is the universal stereotype. I'd wager that most of us prefer uppers to downers, at least while we're actively developing.
- jmduke 14y agoOr, depending on your age, sugar-free red bull. (I'm a hopeless caffeine addict and find that switching up my source helps.)
- evo_9 14y agoTrue, good point, caffeine and coffee really go hand-in-hand with the coder life - I switched from coffee to green-tea about 5 years back myself though. Actually, depending on the type of pot and how you are wired it can be an upper or a downer (it's actually classified a hallucinogen). There are two strains - sativa and indica's - and for some the indica will knock you on your butt while the other will actually give you an odd focused, upbeat kind of buzz. Not that I would know personally, ahem...
- threepipeproblm 14y agoThis is meaningless without comparing to non-developers, or the general population. For all we know from this data, developers may like beer less than non-developers. Combine this with the problems cited by jmduke, and I'm not sure it is enhancing the reputation of the "developer focused industry analyst firm" that published it. Yes, I have no sense of humor.
- dsberkholz 14y agoEven without the contrast (impossible given this particular dataset since the survey wasn't given to a control), it's still interesting. Here's why -- when you consider the broader context of the outlash against beer/alcohol at conferences, notice that only 5% of developers said they hated beer. That apparently means a tiny minority of people could have an outsized influence on conference behavior. Note that this survey wasn't given purely to conference-goers, so it's not selection bias.
- threepipeproblm 14y agoGood point... I didn't know this was about getting drunk at conferences. Objection withdrawn.
- malkia 14y agoPilsner Urquell FTW!
- rekwah 14y agoI'm curious if this is partly because of it being a male dominated profession. I would assume polls of other professions with such chromosome skew would produce similar results.
- DigitalSea 14y agoI am a developer and yes I do like beer. I am a human, who would have thought? I also like long walks and holding hands with girls on the beach, then having sex. I hate the stereotype that makes it seem like developers are different to ordinary people, some of the developers I work with you wouldn't even be able to pick that they're developers, they don't walk around in Github t-shirts, wearing glasses and throwing words like release cycle and debugging around.
- Dystopian 14y agoWho doesn't love beer.