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Dodge Chargers now have pop-up ads at every stoplight
- BMc2020 2y agoIsn't distracting the driver a safety hazard?
- wkat4242 2y agoIt only happens when the car is stopped, at least they cared that much. Though they probably feared the inevitable lawsuit.
- duxup 2y agoThat’s a “you are dead to me” brand decision for me.
- e40 2y agoYeah, next car I buy, which hopefully won't be for many years (I keep them until they are dead or crashed (into usually)), will definitely be one that I fully research beforehand and anything like this is absolutely off the list. What short-sighted shite.
- tocs3 2y agoAnd a close look at used cars, from before 2010.
- wkat4242 2y agoCouldn't they push that to them too with an over the air update?
- tocs3 2y agoThere is nothing to push anything to in my 2006 Toyota.
- wkat4242 2y agoAh ok I thought SiriusXM could be used on older cars too. I don't have any experience with that system, it's not available in Europe.
- e40 2y agoMost traditional car companies don't push updates. I once asked Toyota if I could get an update in the dealer for a problem and they said no, they only update what is absolutely necessary (e.g., recall items). My 2011 Acura doesn't do OTA updates either, and that's the way I like it.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> a close look at used cars, from before 2010 You’re potentially losing side airbags, collision avoidance and other safety features that became relatively universal since 2010. The better option is to just steer to brands that take privacy and security at least a little seriously [1]. [1] https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/article...
- tocs3 2y agoI do like the safety found in newer cars. I also like fuel efficiency (gas or electric) in newer cars. Cars are important to me for transportation, but I do not really care for them otherwise. The newer cars just feel less and less mine. If I were not in a rural area I would consider not owning a one.
- JumpCrisscross 2y agoCar crashes are among the five leading causes of death in America [1]. My point is that buying a newer, safer car and disabling the telemetry (in my Subaru, for instance, it requires pulling a fuse) is almost always a better choice than buying an older car. For you. For anyone you may have with you. For everyone outside. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/ss/ss7302a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/ss/ss7302a1.htm
- JohnFen 2y ago> You’re potentially losing side airbags, collision avoidance and other safety features that became relatively universal since 2010. I'm good with that.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> I'm good with that Sure. Not everyone is comfortable making that choice for everyone who might get in their car with them or pedestrian in their vicinity. For them, buying a newer car whose telemetry can be torn out is the realistic alternative to sucking it up.
- JohnFen 2y agoYes, cars at least that old are the only option I'm really OK with. Everything newer seems to have a data connection with someone, which is a complete showstopper for me. Although, in a pinch, I could probably disable the cell radio in a car, but it's just better to not have to bother with that.
- e40 2y agoCurrent car is a 2011 with 60k miles. I hope to have this for another 10+ years. I bought it used in 2014 at 25k miles.
- ForOldHack 2y agoYour next car, you will have to pay the dealership to remove ads... Jebus!
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- pvg 2y agoSome big recent threads a month and a week ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43009682 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43009682 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43272453 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43272453
- h1fra 2y agoWe can hate European regulation all we want, that's the kind of stuff it would make illegal straight away
- do_not_redeem 2y agohttps://www.carscoops.com/2024/12/new-dodge-charger-launching-in-europe-and-middle-east-in-2025/ https://www.carscoops.com/2024/12/new-dodge-charger-launchin... Dodge said they'd start selling in EU this year, so we might find out soon enough.
- wkat4242 2y agoGood luck with that :) US models are way too bad gas guzzlers for here anyway with European fuel prices. The only people that buy them do it purely for the looks. Other US brands like Ford make different models just for here (and Asia). At least these ads won't come through because there's no SiriusXM service here.
- sshine 2y agoGas prices and insane taxes based on car’s weight (as a proxy for its toll on the road).
- wkat4242 2y agoThe road tax basis differs per country. Some are using CO2 per km, others weight, it depends. I didn't think it was too high when I still owned a car (in Ireland). And this was a petrol car which was very unfavourable in the CO2-based tax regime.
- ChuckMcM 2y agoSeems like such a dumb idea. Now I totally see it on rental car fleets but on car you own? not so much. Edit: To be clear I think it would be a deal breaker for rental cars too, but I could see a marketing type make the case for the 'marginal revenue add' or some such.
- AnimalMuppet 2y agoNo, not rental car fleets either. (Remind me not to rent a Dodge on my next trip. Oh, your company only has Dodges? Guess I'll rent from your competitor, then...)
- duxup 2y agoAnd yet at the same time a rental car fleet is when I most need my map up there and not an advertisement.
- KoolKat23 2y agoI see in a linked Reddit thread it's the radio station pushing it?
- markhaslam 2y agoLet's hope that consumers hate this terrible idea enough that it doesn't spread to other car manufacturers.
- 14 2y agoDodge vehicles suck so bad these days as it is. They have been making poor products for decades now and customers are finally starting to wake up to it. Guess they are doubling down now. No one needs this shit put in their face in their car. Sending an email which surely most people end up giving up in modern car purchases with the information this ad is trying to sell is more than enough. Just another poor decision from a company that fails to impress customers.
- galleywest200 2y agoBased on the comments in the subreddit post this article is talking about, this seems to be the fault of SiriusXM? https://www.reddit.com/r/Dodge/comments/1j838k8/why_tf_am_i_getting_ads_in_my_car/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Dodge/comments/1j838k8/why_tf_am_i_...
- moepstar 2y agoFrom what i gathered, this seems to also be the case for SiriusXM - apparently has been for years. Now, this ad is a new one..
- r0ckarong 2y agoRuin everything. Fire has always been entertaining to watch.
- xbar 2y agoDateline June 1, 2025 Big 3 Automakers Changed to Tesla, GM, Ford After Total Stellantis Collapse
- jknoepfler 2y agos/Tesla/Toyota/ unless that was part of the joke.
- bryanlarsen 2y agoIt really hasn't been one of the Big 3 since 2014 when Fiat purchased Chrysler and Chrysler became a European company. Big 3 refers to American automakers. Tesla has been the 3rd largest American automaker for over a decade.
- tzs 2y agoIf we limit it to American automakers though it should probably no longer be the Big 3. It should be the Big 2. In 2024 GM had 17% of US car sales, Ford had 13%, and Tesla had 4%. I wonder what it would look like if we included non-US companies but only counted their US sales of cars that were built in the US (and excluded cars from GM, Ford, and Tesla that are not built in the US)? A bit of searching failed to turn up anything useful. If we forget about where the company is from and just look at the top brands, it is not clear for what N it makes sense anymore to talk about a "Big N". The top 10 are, in order, GM, Toyota, Ford, Hyundai, Honda, Stellantis, Nissan, VW, Subaru, and Tesla. Their shares of 2024 sales were 17, 15, 13, 11, 9, 8, 7, 4, 4, and 4%.
- bryanlarsen 2y agoBig 3 at this point is basically a historical term.
- readthenotes1 2y agoA car company at war with its users... ... miss you, n-gate!
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- wkat4242 2y agoThis is so incredibly ridiculous. It's like reading an article from the onion. In fact I've been having this feeling a lot lately :'(
- Animats 2y agoI own a Jeep Wrangler. I was considering buying another one. Not happening. Here's the Stellantis customer agreement.[1] Free Access Subscription Plan: The Free Access Plan is our free advertising supported Subscription. You may be offered the opportunity to self-activate this Plan or we may activate your vehicle radio after your Trial Subscription or paid Subscription Plan. The Service will continue until: (i) you or we cancel this Plan; (ii) your radio is transferred; or (iii) you purchase a Subscription. The content available may differ depending on the capabilities of your radio and this Plan is not available on all radios. You agree that we may activate this Plan on your inactive radio and the availability of this Service is determined solely by us. If this Plan has been activated on your radio, you may cancel it as set forth in Section 4. You may request that your radio not be activated with this Plan after your trial or paid Subscription by mailing a letter to Sirius XM Care, PO Box 33174, Detroit, MI 48232, Attention: No Free Access Subscription. In your letter include: (1) your first and last name; (2) email address; (3) postal address; (4) Vehicle Radio ID/ESN; and (5) indicate that you do not want the Free Access Plan. Stellantis stock has dropped from 29 to 12 over the last year. [1] https://www.siriusxm.com/customer-agreement https://www.siriusxm.com/customer-agreement
- insane_dreamer 2y ago> You agree that we may activate this Plan on your inactive radio and the availability of this Service is determined solely by us. wtaf
- ranger_danger 2y ago> The Service will continue until: (i) you or we cancel this Plan Sounds like a mostly nothingburger if I can turn it off myself.
- cowboylowrez 2y agoI had sirius xm with a new car, I subbed for a year or two additional then cancelled as a cost savings when I got the axe at work. I still every few months or so maybe get my radio switched back to xm for an ad for another xm subscription. As I've been resigned to the decline of civilization I just sort of noted that I had a few seconds worth of work added to my life in turning it off to the profit of someone else so it really isn't that bad I guess, especially as it only happens when starting the car which is the best case if it has to be that way. This particular ad, at every stoplight well thats quite a bit worse in my opinion. I feel lucky now that its just sirius xm ads for me.
- araes 2y agoSo glad I gave up driving automobiles. The industry obviously hates their own customers. All this would motivate is putting piece of cardboard over the dashboard display, or ripping out the dash entirely and replacing it with your own custom 3rd party alternative. Or ripping out the satellite / wifi equivalent. Starting to get like Windows with wheels. Get a new install. Disable camera. Disable microphone. Disable remote desktop. Disable call-home reporting. Disable corporate features apps. And Windows still keeps trying to get me have XBox game pass on my work laptop... Why did you uninstall this? Are you sure you don't want to interact with teabaggers on Halo and Fortnight during work? And how much can they possibly make? A couple $ million for an ad contract that makes nobody ever want to buy your automobiles ever again? Like many have noted, if there's ever a return to driving it's going to be about the least "connected" automobile that can be found on the market. Want wifi while driving I'll use a phone.
- dehrmann 2y agoI'm more bothered by ads in mass transit because that's a government-owned bus/train it's on. At least I can vote with my dollar if I don't want my car to show me ads.
- pgib 2y agoI also can't believe how many cars display a terms of service Every. Time. You. Start. The. Car. So incredibly ugly, tacky, and unnecessary.
- hingusdingus 2y agoWelp yeah cancelling that test drive now. Want no part in that bs.
- josefritzishere 2y agoNothing says "I hate my customers and am fine with sales crashing and burning" like pop up ads.
- neuralRiot 2y agoI work on cars, to diagnose a “stellantis” (Fiat, Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, etc) I need to login and pay subscription in 3 different sites, to use an aftermarket tool still need to pay and login. This obviously carries a cost that I need to charge the customer. So if you own a FCA vehicle expect to get charged north of $150 just to plug the tool on your car.
- methou 2y agoNever bought a car, but can you request the dealer to remove SIM module from the vehicle? So you can selectively update the infotainment system only when you vetted/needed to?