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Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died
- _mitterpach 2y agoSo many tragic plane incidents lately. Is there any reason for this increased occurence, or is it actually within normal margins?
- user-the-name 2y ago[dead]
- selectodude 2y agoSmall planes like that crash all the time. You’re just hearing about it because we’re all on high alert - and in this circumstance, because the deceased has some fame.
- MrMcCall 2y agoI think Harrison Ford crashed TWO.
- jorvi 2y agoChartered (= small) planes crash sometimes. Helicopters crash a lot. Big airline crashes are virtually non-existent, to the point where US airlines had 16 fatality-free years until this January, on 210 million flights. Flying commercially is mind-boggingly safe.
- rtkwe 2y agoTo be a bit pedantic this isn't a chartered flight. That's a whole level above this that does require some more specialized licensure. Carl was flying his own plane so this would be good ol' General Aviation. A private pilot's license is not allowed to offer flights for pay only cost sharing (at least in the US) and only for flights the pilot would otherwise have taken without passengers (tougher to prove but easy to mess up if you're trying to skirt the law).
- dharmab 2y agoIt's an open secret, borderline meme in the General Aviation community about rich plane owners being overconfident and impatient, resulting in flying into poor weather conditions and getting into trouble. https://www.faa.gov/media/19371 https://www.faa.gov/media/19371 "get-there-itis"
- davidhariri 2y agoI had the same reaction. I wonder if it’s simply that more people are flying?
- GrumpyNl 2y agoWe are getting older and so are your heroes. They just die.
- ziddoap 2y agoThis would be more applicable to death by natural causes, not death by plane accident.
- dysoco 2y agoThis is true but also the longer you live the more people you get to recognize at least by name.
- rvnx 2y agoIt sometimes feels the more evil you are, the longer you live. Larry Silverstein, George Soros, Rupert Murdoch, Charles Koch, Donald Trump are enjoying their best lives. And before that, David Rockefeller (til 101 years!). Life is unfair from the beginning.
- anonzzzies 2y agoOnly the good die young. I like the Iron Maiden song.
- tasuki 2y agoIs George Soros evil? I always thought he did a lot of good for the world.
- acdha 2y agoHe is not, but the extreme right likes to demonize him so they can use his name as a smear but claim they’re not anti-Semitic.
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- kioleanu 2y agoTry the AV Herald, you’d be surprised how many incidents there in the world every day
- neogodless 2y agoWhen I was much younger, my mom worked for a wealthy small business owner. Her job involved overnight supervision of pregnant horses; the foals were very valuable, and the owners of the sires were paid handsomely. Anyway, sometimes I would go along for a sleep over, enjoy the adventure of being away from home, play some pinball. Whatever. Anyway, one day (as an adult) I met the owner, shook his hand. No big deal. But the very next day I was driving along and saw black smoke, and found out later that it was coming from a helicopter crash, and one of the victims was the man I had met and shook hands with a day earlier. It was really eerie, and of course had a relatively direct affect on our lives, not just mentally / emotionally, but ultimately the stable changed ownership and my mom ended up having to get a different job. If there's a point, sometimes crashes (and deaths) don't matter to us, personally (even if they matter to plenty of other people), and sometimes they do. You definitely notice the ones that matter to you personally, or are just on a larger scale than is normal.
- otherme123 2y agoSmall 4 seater plane, flying solo, through the mountains and in bad weather. Not recommended.
- muzani 2y agoA lot of plane/helicopter deaths are assassinations. I'm not saying any of the recent ones are, but the data for "normal margins" is probably skewed. You probably don't see as many assassinations from heat stroke, submarines, etc. There's a few under "self harm", but the actual self harm deaths far exceed the whistleblower "self harm" cases to the point that they're not too statistically significant.
- weberer 2y agoSmall plane accidents happen all the time. >From 2015 to 2020, there were a total of 7,294 accidents >From 2015 to 2020, there were a total of 2,220 fatalities https://flyfright.com/plane-crash-statistics/small-airplane-statistics/ https://flyfright.com/plane-crash-statistics/small-airplane-...
- rtkwe 2y agoSo far this year there's about the same number of General Aviation crashes you'd expect they're making the news more because there's more eyes on the situation because of the major commercial aviation crashes (which are decidedly not normal). General Aviation is quite a bit less safe than commercial aviation for a lot of reasons; fewer engines means more risk of failure, lack of maintenance due to cost or understanding, pilots are less well trained (generally speaking of course), GA often flies at lower altitudes giving less time for recovery, etc. You can scroll back through the FAA's release archive for a look at just how many incidents happen that never make the wider news you've likely never heard of unless you live in the area it happened (and maybe not even then given the state of local news). https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/statements/accident_incidents https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/statements/accident_incidents
- boramalper 2y agoI think Carl was more of an early supporter and provided vital services without which TPB might not exist but I'm not sure if he should be considered a co-founder (or is considered so by the other three).
- ghuntley 2y agoBingo bango and right on the money.
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- akimbostrawman 2y agoRIP. He might have only been a backer but he helped pave the way for P2P torrenting getting mainstream attention and eternally pissing off the content mafia in true hacker spirit.
- dagw 2y agoDo you consider using your inherited wealth to bankroll white nationalist political candidates also part of the "true hacker spirit". Carl may have been part of TPB for a small part of his life, but his true life long passion and calling was always first and foremost to be a dedicated and passionate white nationalist.
- antiracist 2y agoThe joy of driving artists and musicians into bankruptcy is more important than any of that, apparently.
- chimeracoder 2y ago> The joy of driving artists and musicians into bankruptcy is more important than any of that, apparently. Comments like these distract from the larger point you're making because they misrepresent the nature of the effect that TPB (and similar services) actually have had on artists, and on the historical relationship between artists and the capital class throughout history. It's a common misconception that filesharing harms artists - that's a misconception put forth by the RIAA and its ilk because it harms them. In reality, the relationship is much more complicated, because artists aren't the ones who directly benefit from album sales anyway, and they are themselves often exploited by the record labels who are the ones directly harmed by filesharing (to the extent that you believe filesharing even constitutes harm, which is a separate and debated point).
- akimbostrawman 2y ago>It's a common misconception that filesharing harms artists Case in point EU study proving that. https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-found-piracy-do-1818629537 https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-...
- ddtaylor 2y agoTPB has paved the way for so many of us to walk. RIP Carl.
- tapeworm 2y agoJust a reminder to everyone that The Pirate Bay was set up to facilitate copyright infringement on a large scale, depriving creators of significant earnings for their work. The involvement of anyone in this is both illegal and immoral. Something to consider before lauding Carl Lundström for his contribution. Also consider that he was a white supremacist and was deeply involved in far right politics. He was not a man who deserves a glowing eulogy.
- washadjeffmad 2y agoThe only thing glowing here is this comment.
- akimbostrawman 2y agoJust a reminder that your moral or political opinions aren't universally or law. He was a man deserving a glowing eulogy.
- amelius 2y agoIf big companies keep stealing my personal information and say this is normal, then I don't mind big companies are being stolen data from.
- daeken 2y agoPiracy: not bad, unethical, or immoral. White supremacy: very bad, unethical, and immoral. Maybe reconsider your priorities here.
- GardenLetter27 2y agoHe provided ISP services, he wasn't exactly a co-founder. The TPB AFK documentary is quite good about the trial. Crazy that they got harsher sentences than a lot of rapists in Sweden - like the guy who got only 14 months and then received ~$80k USD from the government: https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-och-lagar/dokument/skriftlig-fraga/skadestand-till-domd-sadistisk-valdtaktsman_h8113492/ https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-och-lagar/dokument/skri...
- vlovich123 2y ago> In 2018, he was sentenced, together with his accomplice, to pay half a million kronor in damages to the two women he helped rape. But since he could not pay any damages, it was instead the taxpayers who were forced to pay it for him. This is what the plaintiff's lawyer for one of the two raped women tells Samnytt. So the first issue was that the government stepped in to give his victims money. I hope that the government is then going after him to make that whole I don’t know since this seems to be a press release from the government criticizing the judiciary. > The reason is that the Supreme Court has ruled that the convicted rapist may have been under 18 when he raped two women in Malmö in 2017 and was therefore sentenced to an excessively harsh sentence by first the Malmö District Court and later the Skåne and Blekinge Court of Appeal. > The damages correspond to a compensation of 60,000 kronor per month for the 14 months that JK believes the convicted rapist was forced to spend too long in prison. The decision to give money to a rapist in this way has rightly met with strong criticism from the public, who think it is wrong for a convicted rapist to receive so much money. While optically, politically, and emotionally it’s undesirable and reprehensible, from another perspective it’s admirable that the Swedish justice system seems to be upholding the law regardless of who it benefits. A legal system needs to protect criminal systems from the government mob just as much as it needs to protect society from criminals.
- GardenLetter27 2y agoIt's worse though - that it turned out his documents were falsified and he lied about his age - https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/JxGBa4/felet-i-bevisningen-som-aklagaren-missade https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/JxGBa4/felet-i-bevisnin... So he had fraudulently received that money too.
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- bhouston 2y agoNote to self, if I ever get rich fight the urge to get into flying. I don't know the stats off hand, but the number of people that die in small plane crashes seems quite high.
- rtkwe 2y agoCommercial flying is quite safe but General Aviation is quite a bit more dangerous.
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- incognito124 2y agoThis kind of dampens my enthusiasm for getting a PPL
- antiracist 2y agoEssential reading for anyone curious about Carl Lundström's life outside of bankrolling The Pirate Bay: https://www.theregister.com/2012/09/21/pirate_bay_fascist_bankrupt https://www.theregister.com/2012/09/21/pirate_bay_fascist_ba... https://www.theregister.com/2009/02/26/pirate_bay_neo_nazi https://www.theregister.com/2009/02/26/pirate_bay_neo_nazi > Lundström was linked to a gang of skinheads that attacked Latin American tourists in Stockholm in the mid-1980s. Over the years, Lundström has switched his support from Keep Sweden Swedish to the far-right headbangers party New Democracy - but was thrown out for being too right wing. He's currently bankrolling 100 candidates for the Swedish equivalent of the BNP.
- rtkwe 2y agoGlad he accidentally did at least one half-decent thing with his money once. Wonder what his reason was for it, it's not a stance I'd expect from someone with his political leanings.
- dagw 2y agoWonder what his reason was for it Initially almost certainly money. He had a history of being an entrepreneur and investor involved in all kinds of random businesses. Back when he first got involved with TPB, what they were doing (just hosting torrent links) wasn't technically illegal in Sweden, and he probably figured that getting shares in what had potential to become a massive web site in return for offering free hosting at the ISP he ran was a really good deal. Of course his official story was that he wasn't really involved, he mostly just let one of his employees host this side project for free on a server at the ISP he ran. And once his politics became known, the official line from the other TPB founders was that he had never had anything to do with TPB, he just happened to own the ISP where they happened to be hosting. There is also a story that his company had been heavily fined by the BSA over some software licensing and that he was pissed off at them and saw this as a way of getting revenge.
- rtkwe 2y agoHaha so this one good thing was maybe by accident or spite, that jives.
- Philpax 2y agoHis politics were awful, but it's still a shame to see someone who enabled TPB's existence passing away. Partial RIP, I guess.
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- ghuntley 2y agoWe just lost another Aaron Swartz. Without Carl, there would have been no https://prq.se/ https://prq.se/. Without Pauraque, there would be no WikiLeaks, Pirate Bay and a host of other big things that fundamentally shaped the world. Shit, governments were toppled.
- antiracist 2y ago[flagged]
- akimbostrawman 2y agoYes yes we get it move along. Everybody you don't like is literally hitler.
- thrance 2y agoAre you actually fine with white supremacists? Or do you just defend them out of ignorance?
- 123yawaworht456 2y ago[flagged]
- thrance 2y agoDisgusting defense, there is something wrong with harassing any citizens whose face you don't think is white enough to belong to "your people", like "Keep Sweden Swedish" did. Why would the skin color of those who lived there 1000 years ago be relevant to anything? I don't see many Americans advocating for an expulsion of all non-indians (rightly so). Also, when was the last time a nationalist wave led to anything good for anyone? All I can recall is ruin and suffering.
- 123yawaworht456 2y ago
- 1970-01-01 2y agoThis may be worthy of the black bar if politics are properly ignored and the tech value/virtue isn't. RIP.
- codezero 2y agoI never realized he founded Pirate Bay when he was 42 and that he was heir to a crisp bread empire. What a world.
- piva00 2y agoCarl Lundström was a financier of TPB's operations but otherwise he was a far-right nativist nutjob. Thanks for providing the money, Carl, for the rest I'm glad you are not around anymore.
- NoGravitas 2y agoBroke TrueAnon rule 3: never get in a small airplane or a helicopter.
- thrance 2y agoThe amount of people rushing to defend the actions of a white supremacist in this thread is deeply disturbing. His past ties to "Keep Sweden Swedish" (a known neonazi organization) are well established.
- dmos62 2y agoIs hosting a Bittorrent tracker resource-intensive? Is paying for it a founder-level contribution?
- southernplaces7 2y ago>The propeller plane split into two after crashing into a wooden cabin in the Velika Planina mountain Had to laugh at this though. "Velika Planina", the incredibly original name for this mountain means "Big Mountain" in Serbo Croatian and slovenian. The news article basically said "Big Mountain mountain".