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I wasn't planning on buying the book but ... https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250391237?psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp https://www.amazon.com/dp/12503

I wasn't planning on buying the book but ... https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250391237?psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250391237?psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DE...

xyst 2y ago
I’m buying the book, but definitely not from AMZN. Found it on back order at a local shop and ordered there. Bookshop.org is a pretty good alternative to AMZN.
- m463 2y ago
  Others have mentioned bookshop. Why do you prefer it?
  - unsnap_biceps 2y ago
    Buying a physical book through bookshop.org supports a user chosen local bookshop or, if none is selected, supports a nation wide collection of bookshops. The goal being that it's similar to if you went to the bookshop to buy the book directly. Ebooks are the same concept, but they're still sold with DRM (AFAIK), so I haven't dove into their app to test it out.
  - xyst 2y ago
    Besides not being AMZN. They act as a middleman to redirect purchases to local bookstores in your area. Plus registered/certified as a B-corporation is a plus in my book — https://www.bcorporation.net/en-us/find-a-b-corp/company/bookshoporg/ https://www.bcorporation.net/en-us/find-a-b-corp/company/boo...
- ChoGGi 2y ago
  For anyone else looking at it: US and UK only
- TheNewsIsHere 2y ago
  And for ebooks, I’ve found Kobo to be an absolutely fantastic replacement. They also widely support Adobe Editions if that is your jam.
  - hangonhn 2y ago
    Is there a good replacement for Audible?
    - bathtub365 2y ago
      Kobo also has audiobooks
    - dredmorbius 2y ago
      Not for audiobooks sold through Audible, for reasons Cory Doctorow has discussed at length: Today, Audible dominates the audiobook market. In some verticals, their market-share is over 90 percent! And Audible will not let authors or publishers opt out of DRM. If you want to publish an audiobook with Audible, you must let them add their DRM to it. That means that every time one of your readers buys one of your books, they’re locking themselves further into Audible. If you sell a million bucks’ worth of audiobooks on Audible, that’s a million bucks your readers have to forfeit to follow you to a rival platform. <https://doctorow.medium.com/why-none-of-my-books-are-available-on-audible-83cb182f2f91 https://doctorow.medium.com/why-none-of-my-books-are-availab...>
    - kevincrane 2y ago
      Libro.fm rules, been using it for years now. Same price as Amazon, has a vast majority of the books I've been interested in, and you get to pick a local bookstore to support and some portion of your subscription goes to them. Since we're on HN, you can actually download the audio files from Libro.fm as an officially-supported feature also for backups. https://libro.fm/ https://libro.fm/
  - xyst 2y ago
    Does Kobo allow you to keep pdfs or epubs of the books? Or is an account always required (DRM)?
blackhaj7 2y ago
Hadn’t heard of it until this article about them wanting to block promotion. Instant buy
NBJack 2y ago
Streisand Effect in full force.
bamboozled 2y ago
Yup, I have to listen to the audio book now.
davidw 2y ago
Also here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/careless-people-a-cautionary-tale-of-power-greed-and-lost-idealism/22213433?ean=9781250391230&next=t https://bookshop.org/p/books/careless-people-a-cautionary-ta...
- ajoseps 2y ago
  thanks, placed an order through bookshop
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ThePowerOfFuet 2y ago
Tracking-free link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250391237 https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250391237
whatamidoingyo 2y ago
Is that an affiliate link? Clever, if so.

I wasn't planning on buying the book but ... https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250391237?psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250391237?psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DE...

xyst 2y ago

I’m buying the book, but definitely not from AMZN. Found it on back order at a local shop and ordered there. Bookshop.org is a pretty good alternative to AMZN.

m463 2y ago
Others have mentioned bookshop. Why do you prefer it?
- unsnap_biceps 2y ago
  Buying a physical book through bookshop.org supports a user chosen local bookshop or, if none is selected, supports a nation wide collection of bookshops. The goal being that it's similar to if you went to the bookshop to buy the book directly. Ebooks are the same concept, but they're still sold with DRM (AFAIK), so I haven't dove into their app to test it out.
- xyst 2y ago
  Besides not being AMZN. They act as a middleman to redirect purchases to local bookstores in your area. Plus registered/certified as a B-corporation is a plus in my book — https://www.bcorporation.net/en-us/find-a-b-corp/company/bookshoporg/ https://www.bcorporation.net/en-us/find-a-b-corp/company/boo...
ChoGGi 2y ago
For anyone else looking at it: US and UK only
TheNewsIsHere 2y ago
And for ebooks, I’ve found Kobo to be an absolutely fantastic replacement. They also widely support Adobe Editions if that is your jam.
- hangonhn 2y ago
  Is there a good replacement for Audible?
  - bathtub365 2y ago
    Kobo also has audiobooks
  - dredmorbius 2y ago
    Not for audiobooks sold through Audible, for reasons Cory Doctorow has discussed at length: Today, Audible dominates the audiobook market. In some verticals, their market-share is over 90 percent! And Audible will not let authors or publishers opt out of DRM. If you want to publish an audiobook with Audible, you must let them add their DRM to it. That means that every time one of your readers buys one of your books, they’re locking themselves further into Audible. If you sell a million bucks’ worth of audiobooks on Audible, that’s a million bucks your readers have to forfeit to follow you to a rival platform. <https://doctorow.medium.com/why-none-of-my-books-are-available-on-audible-83cb182f2f91 https://doctorow.medium.com/why-none-of-my-books-are-availab...>
  - kevincrane 2y ago
    Libro.fm rules, been using it for years now. Same price as Amazon, has a vast majority of the books I've been interested in, and you get to pick a local bookstore to support and some portion of your subscription goes to them. Since we're on HN, you can actually download the audio files from Libro.fm as an officially-supported feature also for backups. https://libro.fm/ https://libro.fm/
- xyst 2y ago
  Does Kobo allow you to keep pdfs or epubs of the books? Or is an account always required (DRM)?

blackhaj7 2y ago

Hadn’t heard of it until this article about them wanting to block promotion. Instant buy

NBJack 2y ago

Streisand Effect in full force.

bamboozled 2y ago

Yup, I have to listen to the audio book now.

davidw 2y ago

Also here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/careless-people-a-cautionary-tale-of-power-greed-and-lost-idealism/22213433?ean=9781250391230&next=t https://bookshop.org/p/books/careless-people-a-cautionary-ta...

ajoseps 2y ago
thanks, placed an order through bookshop

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ThePowerOfFuet 2y ago

Tracking-free link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250391237 https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250391237

whatamidoingyo 2y ago

Is that an affiliate link? Clever, if so.