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xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster
- adra 2y agoI don't care if this works or not it makes me giddy with glee at the idea. Thanks for making my day.
- a012 2y agoI'd be a great April 1st joke to replace ArgoCD by this spreadsheet
- BirAdam 2y agoTaken the complex and making it so simple, fantastic.
- awsanswers 2y agoThis is useful and necessary software. Keep going. This can be a wonderful demystifyer for some and a useful tool for others.
- jaimehrubiks 2y agoAmazing software, a must have. They never merged my PR though.
- casper14 2y agoThe README and faq are really funny. "What??" as the first question is gold
- test6554 2y agoNow let’s map helm config files to csv and use pivot tables for networking
- Gee101 2y agoDoes it mean you can give it Finance and get rid of the IT Operations team?
- bionsystem 2y agoYes and give a well deserved bonus to those finance guys.
- dstanko 2y agoThis would be awesome - let's make finance responsible for infrastructure! That way they can at the same time save a lot of money, and be accountable (pun intended) for the impact they make by "saving" money.
- jauntywundrkind 2y agoLove it. For a different sort of person, but there's some rather old efforts to expose Kubernetes & Etcd under FUSE , which would also be neat direct access. https://github.com/opencredo/KubeFuse https://github.com/opencredo/KubeFuse https://github.com/cstavr/etcdfs https://github.com/cstavr/etcdfs And since I was curious, there's also a spreadsheet to FUSE too, https://github.com/mk270/xls-fuse https://github.com/mk270/xls-fuse As far as I know, the only 3d representation of Kubernetes is KubeDoom, https://github.com/storax/kubedoom https://github.com/storax/kubedoom
- Operyl 2y agoThere was https://eric-jadi.medium.com/minecraft-as-a-k8s-admin-tool-cf16f890de42 https://eric-jadi.medium.com/minecraft-as-a-k8s-admin-tool-c... too.
- fragmede 2y agoJust need Factorio integration. Given output from k describe pods -A, generate a blueprint with ingress represented by a belt balancer/splitter bit that feeds into furnaces leading to assemblers leading into boxes representing storage or something.
- osigurdson 2y agoI love the company's mission statement: "Replacing YAML with spreadsheets has always been our mission as a company, and we will continue to do so."
- GuinansEyebrows 2y agoThey’re not worse than YAML…
- cm2187 2y agoIn fact as a configuration file, spreadsheets are a much superior UI, you can change lots of numbers very quickly if your config is tabular in nature. Whether it is a good idea that what you type should modify a prod environment live is a different question. Working in finance and living in spreadsheet it sounds like a terrible design to me. You want to be to inspect the whole config change before it affects the target system.
- osigurdson 2y agoAgree. I don't many use cases for manually editing the numbers of various things.
- progbits 2y agoAlso in spreadsheet you can do proper computation, reference other values, make VLOOKUPs. So much better than YAML where the entire ecosystem seems to pretend there isn't a need for abstraction in configs.
- osigurdson 2y agoI dunno, I tried making an example pod definition in a spreadsheet just to see what it looks like. It isn't better or more readable as everything is indented too much.
- osigurdson 2y agoThe project is super active with lots of contributors as well. This thing is going take over! (joking in case people didn't look - 2 commits 5 years ago)
- hdjrudni 2y agoIf it was read-only I wouldn't hate it so much. A table view of all my resources wouldn't be bad. But heaven forbidden if I hit a random number in a random cell!
- freedomben 2y agoI would hope it's smart enough to automatically convert any values in the cell to a number. For example if I type "a" into the cell, it should create 97 replicas
- nativeit 2y agoI've never needed the distributed nature of Kubernetes, but I dig the notion of using a spreadsheet as a control interface. Does anyone know of a similar paradigm for other sysadmin applications?
- raffkede 2y agoInfrastructure as Excel for Cloud Services:)
- ccakes 2y agohttps://github.com/storax/kubedoom https://github.com/storax/kubedoom Obligatory Doom mention
- speedgoose 2y agok3s with the default SQLite based storage instead of ETCD works very well for single node kubernetes instances.
- friendzis 2y ago> I've never needed the distributed nature of Kubernetes I reckon majority of operations do not strictly need distributed nature of Kubernetes and for many SMBs, which comfortably fit into one or two rack units plus maybe a storage shelf, that's even counterproductive. However, Kubernetes, being resource virtualization platform, offers some very nice isolation and admin access control capabilities. I guess that's the power of kubernetes for most orgs.
- moondev 2y agoNow it just needs a kubectl plugin to launch Google sheets webpage with carbonyl for e2e terminal use
- baq 2y agoBetter than yaml. Spreadsheets are underused as an UI. Every time you embed a table component in your app you probably wouldn’t complain about it being one.
- nicman23 2y agothe bar is in hell
- hnlmorg 2y agoThe problem with spreadsheets vs regular tables is that spreadsheets allow for a lot of customisation (which is kind of the point of a spreadsheet vs a table). As a programming interface, that makes spreadsheets deceptively powerful. But as a UI were you need to have control over how the user interacts, that makes spreadsheets incredibly painful to integrate. Source: myself. I worked on a project around 20 years ago which integrated a spreadsheet into its UI and the number of ways people would break the application each month was mind boggling.
- xtracto 2y agoThe great thing about spreadsheets is that most grown ups understand them. I've used it as the best UI for Accountants, Lawyers and other people that are famous for being afraid of technology. It's a great "bridge between "the system" and the people who want to get something from it.
- hnlmorg 2y agoI’m not disputing spreadsheets as an assessable IDE for “non-programmers”. I’m a big fan of spreadsheets for “getting shit done”. But if you’re building a UI for other people to consume, you’ll quickly find that they’d break it in all manner of exotic ways. This is why CRUD solutions exist. Sometimes you want the relational bookkeeping but with a more restricted UI. In those type of scenarios even MS Access is a better option than Excel (for example).
- bee_rider 2y agoIf I were an accountant, I would be afraid of a lot of technology. In particular, if somebody offered me a Python code, and I didn’t know Python, I’d be quite worried about the handling of rounding and that sort of stuff, by some random programmer. Excel was also written by some random programmer. But the code that does anything complicated was at least used by everybody in my field, so if there’s a hidden bug in there, at least the responsibility is diffuse. And the code written by me or by someone at my office… well, you can at least see what every cell does.
- dhab 2y agoLove it. I generally avoided excel when my previous role was a dev. Now, leading a team - I find it more useful as it's a little universe to add various computations (counts, min, max) of various sorts of data that I want to keep track across projects & create charts etc, create rapid UIs (project timelines etc) and easily change them when required, invite collaborators, use that to replace slides to drive meeting discussions It's quite versatile. I had never considered this angle of using it to manage and sync with something external like Kubernetes here and love it. I wish someone also solved the issue with excel around refactoring though - esp when cells are being used in formulas, if there was a "Find All References" or Cmd+SHIFT+F (global find) of elements used in formula (not their values) - it would step it up even more towards maintainability. (I understand it buckles under huge datasets, but I believe that's really over-use of the tool)
- anner_ 2y agoIs this feature what you're looking for? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/display-the-relationships-between-formulas-and-cells-a59bef2b-3701-46bf-8ff1-d3518771d507 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/display-the-relat...
- philips 2y agoToday I learned. Here is the doc for Google sheets: https://support.google.com/docs/answer/63175?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop https://support.google.com/docs/answer/63175?hl=en&co=GENIE....
- rickdeckard 2y ago> I wish someone also solved the issue with excel around refactoring though - esp when cells are being used in formulas, if there was a "Find All References" or Cmd+SHIFT+F (global find) of elements used in formula (not their values) - it would step it up even more towards maintainability. I usually handle this in MS Excel by searching "in workbook" and "in formulas". Works even better when the elements are in a named cell which is referenced in formulas (i.e. "stat.infra.APIrequests" instead of "$A$5"), this way you can also globally change the element by reassigning the cell-name to another cell
- mns06 2y agoAmazing. I used to run a startup that allowed you to write Python scripts that streamed data into Excel in real time - for eg. https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/8ddmui/real_time_stock_dashboard_in_excel_oc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/8ddmui/rea... The python scripts were deployed PaaS style into a Kubernetes cluster. If only we'd had the insight to manage our control plane via Excel also, we'd probably be squillionaires by now. :P
- fulafel 2y ago> xlskubectl integrates Google Spreadsheet with Kubernetes Great trolling in the name as well
- ithkuil 2y agoOther possible names: kubexls kubecalc tabelnetes kube123
- Aeolun 2y agoIt’s called xls, but it uses Google sheets?
- benterix 2y agoThis made my day!
- raffraffraff 2y agoWould love to mix this up with FluxCD
- _joel 2y agoGoodbye GitOps. Hello AccountingOps
- formerly_proven 2y agoThere is already FinOps...
- eichin 2y agoThe "inspired by" link is to a reddit thread that uses (coins?) the term "SheetOps"...
- nextts 2y agoNow quants can do devops
- stuff4ben 2y agoI know several pointy haired bosses in real enterprise IT shops who would jump on this. Because everything is run on Excel/Google spreadsheets.
- danielepolencic 2y agoHey, I'm the person behind this project. Thank you for sharing this. Many people have reached out to improve it, and I might come back with a Jira version one day.
- ryanisnan 2y agoThis is a cursed project, but I can't help but admire it.
- baq 2y agoYaml is more cursed. This is great.
- javcasas 2y agoA Jira version. Children look under the bed afraid of finding monsters. Monsters look under the bed afraid of finding you.
- a012 2y agoFantastic, now my PM can just go ahead create a ticket to scale the workloads without having me to update the spreadsheet again
- organsnyder 2y agoHow about a Workday version? Maybe also one integrated with an Epic EMR somehow?
- freedomben 2y agoOoh yes! Also would love a Salesforce integration so the sales team can scale up without talking to eng. Bonus points if they can add and remove nodes
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- layer8 2y agoMaybe someone could make xlsiptables.
- arkh 2y agoI'm disappointed it does not run in excel but uses a google spreadsheet.
- crest 2y agoThis has to be the perfect passive aggressive comeback to bitchslap a project manager with a mirco-management fetish into the PaaS cost control limits the moment they demonstrate the power at their fingertips by adding a few zeroes. You have setup those limits didn't you, project manager?
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- ConanRus 2y agosick bastard
- brainzap 2y agoI actually export a spreadsheet to review the memory limits.
- matttproud 2y agoTalk about taking declarative Infrastructure as Code (IaC) to a whole new absurd level. (Or more like putting the manager back in the management plane.)
- guax 2y agoSomeday at the office: What do you mean our auto scaling strategy stopped working when we switched to Office 360?