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This is very informative! > It differs from case to case. You simply have to follow the individual practices. Surely in the case of Leonardo da Vinci, the “st

This is very informative! > It differs from case to case. You simply have to follow the individual practices. Surely in the case of Leonardo da Vinci, the “standard practice” in English is to say “da Vinci” or “ Leonardo da Vinci”, not _just_ “Leonardo”. Leonardo could be anyone for all I know

Archelaos 2y ago
Perhaps people mistook Dan Brown as authoritative on the matter. I browsed the read samples of some of the top listed books on Leonardo da Vinci on Amazon, and all use "Leonardo" in their introduction whenever they do not refer to him as "Leonardo da Vinci". I found no single isolated "da Vinci". See: https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/0715324535 https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/0715324535 https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/B0DHFRBMF3 https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/B0DHFRBMF3 https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/1501139169 https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/1501139169 The standard way to avoid confusion is to introduce him as "Leonardo da Vinci" and later just say "Leonardo".
- pinkmuffinere 2y ago
  Ah, that makes sense. Your answers are really well researched, it raises the standard of the forum. Thanks!
lxgr 2y ago
I definitely thought of the aerospace/defense company before the polymath.
- Archelaos 2y ago
  Actually, the company was (re)named after Leonardo da Vinci, see: https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2016/04/28/it-s-official-finmeccanica-is-now-leonardo/ https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2016/04/28/it-s-officia... (and then not named "Da Vinci").
tejohnso 2y ago
> Leonardo could be anyone for all I know If the topic is sketching and someone refers to Leonardo, you should know who it is. It's like referring to "Michael" when talking about basketball.
mapt 2y ago
Yes, because we interpret "da Vinci" as a surname, which it isn't, at least not exactly. But in fact, the man your college friend-group calls "Johnny from the Bronx" in English would not be shortened to "from the Bronx".
srean 2y ago
> Leonardo could be anyone for all I know Indeed. There was a famous Leonardo from Pisa. Son of Bonacci.

Archelaos 2y ago

Perhaps people mistook Dan Brown as authoritative on the matter. I browsed the read samples of some of the top listed books on Leonardo da Vinci on Amazon, and all use "Leonardo" in their introduction whenever they do not refer to him as "Leonardo da Vinci". I found no single isolated "da Vinci". See: https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/0715324535 https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/0715324535 https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/B0DHFRBMF3 https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/B0DHFRBMF3 https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/1501139169 https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/1501139169 The standard way to avoid confusion is to introduce him as "Leonardo da Vinci" and later just say "Leonardo".

pinkmuffinere 2y ago
Ah, that makes sense. Your answers are really well researched, it raises the standard of the forum. Thanks!

lxgr 2y ago

I definitely thought of the aerospace/defense company before the polymath.

Archelaos 2y ago
Actually, the company was (re)named after Leonardo da Vinci, see: https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2016/04/28/it-s-official-finmeccanica-is-now-leonardo/ https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2016/04/28/it-s-officia... (and then not named "Da Vinci").

tejohnso 2y ago

> Leonardo could be anyone for all I know If the topic is sketching and someone refers to Leonardo, you should know who it is. It's like referring to "Michael" when talking about basketball.

mapt 2y ago

Yes, because we interpret "da Vinci" as a surname, which it isn't, at least not exactly. But in fact, the man your college friend-group calls "Johnny from the Bronx" in English would not be shortened to "from the Bronx".

srean 2y ago

> Leonardo could be anyone for all I know Indeed. There was a famous Leonardo from Pisa. Son of Bonacci.