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I don’t think anyone in their right mind is advocating severing ties with the USA to get closer to Russia.

kindeyoowee 2y ago
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paganel 2y ago
That means I’m nuts, or what? The OP was right, Yandex is way better compared to Google when searching for politically sensitive stuff, and they don’t seem to have that much of recency bias as the Google search index has, which I found to be a good thing, but on the whole Google’s search is still slightly better, I would say. More convenient, at least, thanks to the deep integration within Chrome.
- cookiemonsieur 2y ago
  Bingo ! Anything considered too politically sensitive in the west (you know what I'm talking about) can easily be researched on Yandex. Wanna find dirt about the west ? Use Yandex. Wanna find dirt about the kremlin ? Use Google/Bing/Whatever.
  - timeon 2y ago
    > you know what I'm talking about Can you be more specific?
    - guywithahat 2y ago
      (I’m not the guy you replied to) but Google has like 8 ad-friendly approved sources you may get news from, which are all anti-Trump sources. It can be impossible to find news stories unfavorable to democrats without appending the name of conservative outlets on the end.
  - throwawayq3423 2y ago
    > Anything considered too politically sensitive in the west (you know what I'm talking about) Actually I don't. Can you give an example of something censored by Google in the west the same way Russia openly censors it's anti-war voices domestically? https://www.reuters.com/technology/yandex-warns-russian-users-unreliable-information-online-after-moscow-threatens-2022-02-25/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/yandex-warns-russian-user... https://dfrlab.org/2022/03/31/yandex-suppresses-ukraine-war-information-for-russian-internet-users/ https://dfrlab.org/2022/03/31/yandex-suppresses-ukraine-war-...
- petesergeant 2y ago
  Can you give an example of what “politically sensitive stuff” means here? Without context it contains multitudes…
- pidgeon_lover 2y ago
  Using Yandex is the sanest option for me, too, as it feels more like 2014 Google than any other search engine. i.e. I've found it will turn up old blogs, dodgy forums, torrents, which are buried or censored on American search engines. I'm in the UK, and don't really care that Yandex is Russian. I don't like their politics, I don't like Google's politics either. Yandex just gives me the results I want rather than obscuring them.
rrr_oh_man 2y ago
https://images.app.goo.gl/TACTypB6AnUtAgku6 https://images.app.goo.gl/TACTypB6AnUtAgku6 (Funnily, this comic was nigh impossible to find on Google, but turned up on the first search attempt on Yandex)
graemep 2y ago
A lot of people whoa re boycotting some American goods are quite likely to buy Chinese instead so why not? Also, in terms of privacy Russia and the Western countries will not cooperate - so Yandex or the Russian authorities will not be able to get much information on us, nor will anyone in the West get as much information from Yandex as they would from a Western search engine.
- simne 2y ago
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- lern_too_spel 2y ago
  Part of the reason Europeans want to shun the USA is that it is sidling up with Russia.
  - graemep 2y ago
    True. Personally I have thought a change like this inevitable for a long time. The big threat to the US is China. Russia may even be potential ally against China in the long term and is no real threat to the US. Russia is something of a threat to Europe (especially Eastern Europe), but China is a lot less of a threat to us than it is to the US. In many ways European countries are sliding slowly into a closer relationship with China. In the UK (where the Russian threat is pretty distant) the government is allowing Chinese influence in universities, politics and business (universities that are transparently apologists for China), despite many warnings and spy/bought influence scandals. It seems to be even worse in other European countries. I think the future holds an American lead alliance to counter China. It will contain multiple Asian countries, but I would not bet on which way European countries will go (and even whether they all pick the same side).
cookiemonsieur 2y ago
I certainly will, thanks for the plug.

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That means I’m nuts, or what? The OP was right, Yandex is way better compared to Google when searching for politically sensitive stuff, and they don’t seem to have that much of recency bias as the Google search index has, which I found to be a good thing, but on the whole Google’s search is still slightly better, I would say. More convenient, at least, thanks to the deep integration within Chrome.

cookiemonsieur 2y ago
Bingo ! Anything considered too politically sensitive in the west (you know what I'm talking about) can easily be researched on Yandex. Wanna find dirt about the west ? Use Yandex. Wanna find dirt about the kremlin ? Use Google/Bing/Whatever.
- timeon 2y ago
  > you know what I'm talking about Can you be more specific?
  - guywithahat 2y ago
    (I’m not the guy you replied to) but Google has like 8 ad-friendly approved sources you may get news from, which are all anti-Trump sources. It can be impossible to find news stories unfavorable to democrats without appending the name of conservative outlets on the end.
- throwawayq3423 2y ago
  > Anything considered too politically sensitive in the west (you know what I'm talking about) Actually I don't. Can you give an example of something censored by Google in the west the same way Russia openly censors it's anti-war voices domestically? https://www.reuters.com/technology/yandex-warns-russian-users-unreliable-information-online-after-moscow-threatens-2022-02-25/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/yandex-warns-russian-user... https://dfrlab.org/2022/03/31/yandex-suppresses-ukraine-war-information-for-russian-internet-users/ https://dfrlab.org/2022/03/31/yandex-suppresses-ukraine-war-...
petesergeant 2y ago
Can you give an example of what “politically sensitive stuff” means here? Without context it contains multitudes…
pidgeon_lover 2y ago
Using Yandex is the sanest option for me, too, as it feels more like 2014 Google than any other search engine. i.e. I've found it will turn up old blogs, dodgy forums, torrents, which are buried or censored on American search engines. I'm in the UK, and don't really care that Yandex is Russian. I don't like their politics, I don't like Google's politics either. Yandex just gives me the results I want rather than obscuring them.

rrr_oh_man 2y ago

https://images.app.goo.gl/TACTypB6AnUtAgku6 https://images.app.goo.gl/TACTypB6AnUtAgku6 (Funnily, this comic was nigh impossible to find on Google, but turned up on the first search attempt on Yandex)

graemep 2y ago

A lot of people whoa re boycotting some American goods are quite likely to buy Chinese instead so why not? Also, in terms of privacy Russia and the Western countries will not cooperate - so Yandex or the Russian authorities will not be able to get much information on us, nor will anyone in the West get as much information from Yandex as they would from a Western search engine.

simne 2y ago
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lern_too_spel 2y ago
Part of the reason Europeans want to shun the USA is that it is sidling up with Russia.
- graemep 2y ago
  True. Personally I have thought a change like this inevitable for a long time. The big threat to the US is China. Russia may even be potential ally against China in the long term and is no real threat to the US. Russia is something of a threat to Europe (especially Eastern Europe), but China is a lot less of a threat to us than it is to the US. In many ways European countries are sliding slowly into a closer relationship with China. In the UK (where the Russian threat is pretty distant) the government is allowing Chinese influence in universities, politics and business (universities that are transparently apologists for China), despite many warnings and spy/bought influence scandals. It seems to be even worse in other European countries. I think the future holds an American lead alliance to counter China. It will contain multiple Asian countries, but I would not bet on which way European countries will go (and even whether they all pick the same side).

cookiemonsieur 2y ago

I certainly will, thanks for the plug.