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In the meantime, the German-based GOOD search engine [0] might be alternative. It uses Brave’s independent search index, which according to [1] was also largely
by layer8 2y ago
In the meantime, the German-based GOOD search engine [0] might be alternative. It uses Brave’s independent search index, which according to [1] was also largely developed in Germany.
[0] https://good-search.org/ https://good-search.org/
[1] https://en.reset.org/the-good-search-engine-web-search-without-advertising-benefits-users-and-the-climate/ https://en.reset.org/the-good-search-engine-web-search-witho...
- guywithahat 2y agoYandex is also pretty good, they have their own index and it's a lot better than Google on political stuff (as long as the news isn't too recent) and any sort of torrent site.
- fifilura 2y agoEuropeans will not start using a Muscovite search engine. (Edit: R -> Muscovite)
- fakedang 2y agoIs there a difference anyways between Russian and Muscovite? After all, Muscovites imposed their culture forcefully all over Russia as much as they could.
- fifilura 2y agoNot all of Russia. And I think it is a reminder to the people of Dagestan, Buratia, Altai, Bashkortorstan etc that they allow themselves to be taken advantage of and killed by a tribesman from the plains.
- paganel 2y agoThe reactionary spirit among the Western technical elites never ceases to amaze me, it shouldn't by this point, but it still does.
- fifilura 2y agoYou may be right? It was written in anger.
- rrr_oh_man 2y agoIt takes a lot to admit one's missteps! Appreciate the gesture, as an innocent byreader
- wqaatwt 2y agoIt still seems very moderate compared to the fascist imperialist spirit amongst the elite (and majority of the overall population) of that other country..
- paganel 2y ago[flagged]
- fifilura 2y agoHm, that seems like a false dichtonomy. Why could it not be both?
- paganel 2y ago[flagged]
- wqaatwt 2y agoDo you lack the general sense of time and can’t tell if we’re living in the 1940s or 2020s? Surely Russia can’t be imperialist wither because they defeated Napoleon back in 1813? (your “argument” makes about as much sense).
- riffraff 2y agothe Brits defeated Napoleon, and that's why there never was a British empire.
- wave-function 2y agoThis is precisely why I lost all respect for the West in the last couple of years and am now cheering on Putin's propaganda that is deepening divisions in your own societies. It's obvious you'd like nothing more than to carve up our country and destroy our culture — which the people of Siberia, Caucasus, and all other regions have significantly contributed to. But you know fuck all about that because your knowledge of Russia is based on news headlines. Now I really hope he's successful, so this will come back at you.
- ipaddr 2y agoYou held respect previously and this is what caused you to lose it? Or you never held respect and use whatever to feed you?
- ggm 2y agoDidn't Yandex RU divest and its now EU owned in Europe? could be a thin shell of course.
- alapshin 2y agoNo. Original owner of Yandex (Arkady Volozh) sold Yandex to a group of Russian investors (approved by the government) and left with small number of assets in a form of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebius_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebius_Group Everything else that people usually associate with Yandex (search, mail, taxi, marketplace etc.) remains under Russian ownership.
- ggm 2y agoThanks for the correction.
- that_lurker 2y agoKagi is using it for image search and a lot of people do use Kagi
- crossroadsguy 2y agoI do hope you realise that there’s subjective and then there’s “‘a lot’ of people use Kagi” subjective :)
- that_lurker 2y agoThat I do. I should have writen that after my morning coffee.
- wave-function 2y ago[flagged]
- fifilura 2y agoYeah well, I can't edit or delete the comment now unfortunately, and seems like i can't flag my own comment. There are certainly things to discuss here, but not the right forum.
- silversmith 2y agoBased on what's being commented here - some absolutely will. And sitting on the eastern border of EU, that truly scares me.
- guappa 2y ago[flagged]
- notpushkin 2y agoYeah, USSR focused on terrorizing their own people instead.
- guappa 2y agoNon sequitur
- silversmith 2y ago"Their own" in the same way as people of India were English.
- solarkraft 2y agoI don’t think anyone in their right mind is advocating severing ties with the USA to get closer to Russia.
- kindeyoowee 2y ago[dead]
- paganel 2y agoThat means I’m nuts, or what? The OP was right, Yandex is way better compared to Google when searching for politically sensitive stuff, and they don’t seem to have that much of recency bias as the Google search index has, which I found to be a good thing, but on the whole Google’s search is still slightly better, I would say. More convenient, at least, thanks to the deep integration within Chrome.
- cookiemonsieur 2y agoBingo ! Anything considered too politically sensitive in the west (you know what I'm talking about) can easily be researched on Yandex. Wanna find dirt about the west ? Use Yandex. Wanna find dirt about the kremlin ? Use Google/Bing/Whatever.
- timeon 2y ago> you know what I'm talking about Can you be more specific?
- guywithahat 2y ago(I’m not the guy you replied to) but Google has like 8 ad-friendly approved sources you may get news from, which are all anti-Trump sources. It can be impossible to find news stories unfavorable to democrats without appending the name of conservative outlets on the end.
- throwawayq3423 2y ago> Anything considered too politically sensitive in the west (you know what I'm talking about) Actually I don't. Can you give an example of something censored by Google in the west the same way Russia openly censors it's anti-war voices domestically? https://www.reuters.com/technology/yandex-warns-russian-users-unreliable-information-online-after-moscow-threatens-2022-02-25/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/yandex-warns-russian-user... https://dfrlab.org/2022/03/31/yandex-suppresses-ukraine-war-information-for-russian-internet-users/ https://dfrlab.org/2022/03/31/yandex-suppresses-ukraine-war-...
- kome 2y agoyandex is very very good. i wonder why is not used more.
- guywithahat 2y agoThere are certainly some areas where it's not as strong, and I find the anti-bot filter is exceptionally aggressive. That said it does feel like one of the best alternatives. Google has gotten so aggressive about pushing ads or ad-friendly sources it can be impossible to find the content I'm looking for
- Cu3PO42 2y agoThank you for bringing this to my attention! I've been considering switching to Kagi because paying for a service if I don't want to get advertisements just seems like the reasonable thing to do, but I also wanted to reduce my dependence on US companies. GOOD charges €2/month for unlimited search. I wonder why their costs are so much lower than Kagi's. Maybe Brace's pricing for their index is much cheaper than building your own?
- AndreasRenner 2y agoHi, our 2€/month is indeed a low-entry. About 20% of our users pay voluntarily more to support our mission. As a social enterprise, we do not want to make profits on the subscription, but rather keep it low-cost or support our mission. In the end, it's a mixed calculation, which largely depends on how many searches an average users does (we assume around 80). By the way, Kagi has not built an own index; their model is pretty close to ours.
- nanna 2y agoHi Andreas, the Firefox 'start install' link is broken ("Hoppla! Wir können diese Seite nicht finden.") https://good-search.org/about/en/set-up-good/ https://good-search.org/about/en/set-up-good/ Also, while I have your attention, something that I would miss from DDG are the bang commands, which make DDG much better than Google, for me personally. Does GOOD have something similar?
- tremon 2y agoPersonally, I have replaced most of the DDG bangs with firefox keyword searches. As long as your target site accepts the search string as part of the url, you can achieve the same thing without any search engine redirect. As an example, my python search bookmark: url: https://docs.python.org/3/search.html?q=%s keyword: py Means that I can type ctrl-L py and it does the same thing that ctrl-K !py used to do.
- mdaniel 2y ago
- AndreasRenner 2y agoHi, the Brave search feed is largely based on the ground work of the former Munich-based German startup Cliqz, whose technology formed the basis of Brave Search. We as a German purpose enterprise seek to work with best independent technologies and currently focus on Brave Search. We can also access UK-based Mojeek and we are in touch with the Qwant/Ecosia startup who will likely have another independent search feed ready in French mid 2025, and in German possibly early 2026 (it's a guess though). Andreas, Co-Founder GOOD Search