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If green card holders/permanent residents don't have the ability to engage in constitutionally protected speech, doesn't this create a perverse incentive given
by catigula 2y ago
If green card holders/permanent residents don't have the ability to engage in constitutionally protected speech, doesn't this create a perverse incentive given that it creates a class of lawful residents that have circumscribed speech?
I haven't seen a lot of legal pushback on this stuff as opposed to a lot of the other stuff that has been injuncted.
- mindslight 2y agoJust as when Kenneth Walker was summarily denied his constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms, and the neofascists cheered it on. Lofty American ideals like natural rights don't actually matter to them - the harm is the point. But at least Joe Biden got the message of what we thought about his Israel policies!
- catigula 2y agoRegardless of politics there's no way this is constitutionally defensible. It feels like the perverse incentive is the goal. After all, if only American citizens retain the right to protest certain policies they don't like, they have a strong incentive to have less American citizens.
- mindslight 2y agoWhat do you mean by "constitutionally defensible" ? Like how many IBC totes of ink the Subservient Court is going to spill writing a tortured justification for this particular plain infringement of our natural rights?
- refurb 2y agoLogically this could never work. The US immigration system doesn’t allow supporters of the Nazi regime, for example. There is a direct question in the citizenship form - “Have you ever been a member of a group such as…”. The Supreme Court generally allows exceptions to Constitution rights if the government can’t implement an otherwise legal law that the government is entitled to implement - like screening immigrants.
- catigula 2y agoHow long should the screening process be? You seem to assert it's indefinite, which is clearly not constitutional.
- terakilobyte 2y agoWhile a guest in someone's house one should endeavor not to be divisive and cause problems. It's a good way to be uninvited. Maybe that's the reason for the wait on citizenship.
- snapplebobapple 2y agoUntil they have citizenship?
- refurb 2y agoUntil you are a citizen. Until that time, you are an immigrant with temporary permission to reside in the US.
- sampton 2y agoLegalities aside, I don’t get the logic of engaging political protests while on a foreign visa. No one is forcing you to live in the country you hate so much.
- catigula 2y agoProtesting isn't about hating your country, it's free speech and a form of political expression.
- cpncrunch 2y agoHe is accused of supporting hamas and antisemitism, and there is ample evidence of his organization doing that in spades, calling for armed resistance and death of zionists. So, no, not just protesting. Lets be clear about the facts.
- foldr 2y agoHe’s not on a visa. He’s a green card holder.