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Despite the hype, DOGE hasn't found a shred of fraud

86 points by belter 2y ago

techpineapple 2y ago
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fhub 2y ago
Feb 24th
freejazz 2y ago
I have some prime real estate in Brooklyn for sale if you ever suspected otherwise.
kleiba 2y ago
I can only encourage fellow Americans to consult with international media. It can be quite informative, I find, to get a foreign perspective on American affairs.
- yoyopa 2y ago
  [dead]
- jackstraw14 2y ago
  I started reading The Guardian around 2006 or so, BBC News occasionally but it feels more like clickbait titles these days... The Guardian is not totally "international media" since I think they have lots of US staff and contributors, but its removed enough in my opinion, and I appreciate the criticism of the US as an American. Lots of quality content in lots of areas. I think lots of fellow Americans would find it very palatable too.
PartiallyTyped 2y ago
Occam's razor... The number of things that need to go right for there to be organized and/or systemic fraud, and nobody to be able to come out, let alone provide credible evidence for it is enormous.
like_any_other 2y ago
Was the goal ever 'fraud', and not simply funding for things voters/Trump/Musk either disapprove of, or think is wasteful? Such as animal transgender studies [1], DEI departments [2], and yes, a whole lot of uncontroversially useful programs. There are very valid criticisms to be made against DOGE (and have been made), but the article is attacking a strawman. [1] https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-edits-fact-check-saying-trump-falsely-claimed-were-trans-experiments-mice https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-edits-fact-check-saying-tr... [2] https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doge-slashes-over-100m-dei-funding-education-department-win-every-student https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doge-slashes-over-100m-dei-...
- freejazz 2y ago
  "Elon is doing a great job, he's finding tremendous fraud and corruption and waste" Guess who said that
  - MrMcCall 2y ago
    "The Liar-in-Chief". Final answer, Regis.
  - like_any_other 2y ago
    And the article is correct on the fraud part (I assume), but then conflates this with overall waste, which, judging from DOGE's name, is its main goal. Though it does claim it found zero waste [1], 'waste' is highly subjective - e.g. to some, DEI departments and transgender activism in Guatemala is waste [2]. Simply deciding that all of these programs are crucial and therefore no waste was found, is not honest journalism. [1] not a single instance of fraud or waste has been discovered [2] https://nypost.com/2025/02/05/opinion/transgender-recognition-in-bangladesh-kosovo-guatemala-how-one-usaid-employee-shows-whats-wrong-with-the-embattled-agency/ https://nypost.com/2025/02/05/opinion/transgender-recognitio...
    - freejazz 2y ago
      Did you even read my post? Doesn't seem like it. That's what the President said Elon is doing. >Simply deciding that all of these programs are crucial and therefore no waste was found, is not honest journalism. Nor is the description of them as "waste" but that doesn't seem to be a problem when it's something you like.
MrMcCall 2y ago
"Liars gonna lie." --Katt Williams
Apreche 2y ago
Yeah, you know all that oversight and red tape they hate so much and just threw out? All those inspector generals? Their whole purpose was to make sure the government follows the law. It was quite effective. The mistake some fools have made is to take what Trump, Musk, and Republicans say in good faith. When they say they are going to get rid of fraud, what they really mean is they are going to commit it.
lucasRW 2y ago
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- PartiallyTyped 2y ago
  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
- belter 2y ago
  Do you really believe, that if a SINGLE case would have been found, Musk would not be posting about it on Xitter?
PartiallyTyped 2y ago
Why is this flagged?
- belter 2y ago
  Musk interns at work again....

86 points by belter 2y ago

techpineapple 2y ago

[flagged]

fhub 2y ago

Feb 24th

freejazz 2y ago

I have some prime real estate in Brooklyn for sale if you ever suspected otherwise.

kleiba 2y ago

I can only encourage fellow Americans to consult with international media. It can be quite informative, I find, to get a foreign perspective on American affairs.

yoyopa 2y ago
[dead]
jackstraw14 2y ago
I started reading The Guardian around 2006 or so, BBC News occasionally but it feels more like clickbait titles these days... The Guardian is not totally "international media" since I think they have lots of US staff and contributors, but its removed enough in my opinion, and I appreciate the criticism of the US as an American. Lots of quality content in lots of areas. I think lots of fellow Americans would find it very palatable too.

PartiallyTyped 2y ago

Occam's razor... The number of things that need to go right for there to be organized and/or systemic fraud, and nobody to be able to come out, let alone provide credible evidence for it is enormous.

like_any_other 2y ago

Was the goal ever 'fraud', and not simply funding for things voters/Trump/Musk either disapprove of, or think is wasteful? Such as animal transgender studies [1], DEI departments [2], and yes, a whole lot of uncontroversially useful programs. There are very valid criticisms to be made against DOGE (and have been made), but the article is attacking a strawman. [1] https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-edits-fact-check-saying-trump-falsely-claimed-were-trans-experiments-mice https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-edits-fact-check-saying-tr... [2] https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doge-slashes-over-100m-dei-funding-education-department-win-every-student https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doge-slashes-over-100m-dei-...

freejazz 2y ago
"Elon is doing a great job, he's finding tremendous fraud and corruption and waste" Guess who said that
- MrMcCall 2y ago
  "The Liar-in-Chief". Final answer, Regis.
- like_any_other 2y ago
  And the article is correct on the fraud part (I assume), but then conflates this with overall waste, which, judging from DOGE's name, is its main goal. Though it does claim it found zero waste [1], 'waste' is highly subjective - e.g. to some, DEI departments and transgender activism in Guatemala is waste [2]. Simply deciding that all of these programs are crucial and therefore no waste was found, is not honest journalism. [1] not a single instance of fraud or waste has been discovered [2] https://nypost.com/2025/02/05/opinion/transgender-recognition-in-bangladesh-kosovo-guatemala-how-one-usaid-employee-shows-whats-wrong-with-the-embattled-agency/ https://nypost.com/2025/02/05/opinion/transgender-recognitio...
  - freejazz 2y ago
    Did you even read my post? Doesn't seem like it. That's what the President said Elon is doing. >Simply deciding that all of these programs are crucial and therefore no waste was found, is not honest journalism. Nor is the description of them as "waste" but that doesn't seem to be a problem when it's something you like.

MrMcCall 2y ago

"Liars gonna lie." --Katt Williams

Apreche 2y ago

Yeah, you know all that oversight and red tape they hate so much and just threw out? All those inspector generals? Their whole purpose was to make sure the government follows the law. It was quite effective. The mistake some fools have made is to take what Trump, Musk, and Republicans say in good faith. When they say they are going to get rid of fraud, what they really mean is they are going to commit it.

lucasRW 2y ago

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PartiallyTyped 2y ago
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
belter 2y ago
Do you really believe, that if a SINGLE case would have been found, Musk would not be posting about it on Xitter?

PartiallyTyped 2y ago

Why is this flagged?

belter 2y ago
Musk interns at work again....