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> The executive branch shouldn't have nearly as much authority as it does and anything we want to be difficult to be undone should be protected by law It doesn
by hackyhacky 2y ago
> The executive branch shouldn't have nearly as much authority as it does and anything we want to be difficult to be undone should be protected by law
It doesn't matter if rights are protected by law, if the executive branch has no intention to enforce that law.
Right now the executive branch is plainly violating laws established by Congress, and there is no one to stop them.
- _heimdall 2y agoThe legislative and judicial branches are both expected to hold the executive accountable if it breaks the law. If that doesn't happen our system is fundamentally broken, we might as well throw it out and start over.
- xnx 2y agoIs there any democratic system that is safe from democratically voting to dissolve the democracy and replace it with whatever autocracy/kakistocracy/oligarchy we've got now?
- _heimdall 2y agoNo, that's a fundamental risk built into democracy. If any minority group has the power to overrule a majority vote, regardless of what the vote is for, then you don't really have a democracy.
- vkou 2y agoNo, every country is one election away from this shit-show. Which is why under no circumstances you should ever elect anyone who will send yours in that direction. Canadians, take note, the CPC only detached its lips from Trump's backside because they needed to come up for air. At minimum, don't elect people who staged failed coups. They and their supporters will not ever act like they are bound by law.
- nradov 2y agoThe executive branch has blatantly violated numerous laws but so far they have still obeyed court orders which explicitly required them to follow those laws. The real Constitutional crisis will come if they decide to openly defy a federal court order. I would also note that while the current Trump administration has broken federal laws at an accelerated rate, the previous Biden administration did much the same thing on a smaller scale. People here on HN frequently make excuses for Biden's illegal student loan forgiveness program because they liked the results but if we want to preserve the rule of law then it needs to apply to every program. In the long run allowing unchecked growth of executive branch power and the administrative state will be bad for everyone. https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/06/supreme-court-strikes-down-biden-student-loan-forgiveness-program/ https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/06/supreme-court-strikes-dow...
- DangitBobby 2y agoIt's quite telling that you see this as remotely comparable to how the executive is being conducted right now.
- _heimdall 2y agoIts quite telling to me that you don't. In both cases the executive branch is overstepping legal bounds and attempting to take actions that it isn't legally authorized to do.
- DangitBobby 2y agoRight, continuing a tradition of executive overreach to help indebted students get the dick out of their ass is the exact same thing as dismantling the federal government, installing loyalists, betraying allies, allying with dictators, and promising lots of money to billionaires. I intend for it to be telling that I don't see them as the same. We don't even live on the same fucking planet.
- _heimdall 2y agoThe issue isn't why laws were breached, only that the executive branch intentionally broke them. The why behind it matters most for how emotional of a response it will invoke, but maybe I'm preaching to the choir here.