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I drive a Model Y almost every day, and I don’t feel inconvenienced by any of the digital controls, except the lack of volume knob if you have a passenger and t
by lotsofpulp 2y ago
I drive a Model Y almost every day, and I don’t feel inconvenienced by any of the digital controls, except the lack of volume knob if you have a passenger and they want to control the volume. I simply don’t need to adjust anything except music.
And lack of CarPlay, especially due to how convenient SharePlay is with other car passengers.
Autopilot has also been sufficiently good for the price at which the car is sold at. At $40k, I did not find a competitor with a better version of lane assist.
- porphyra 2y agoHonestly, it seems like people who clamor for physical controls are a vocal minority --- Teslas sell very well [0] and owner satisfaction is very high [1] despite the loud complaints from non-Tesla drivers online. It seems most people who actually drive Teslas are happy with them, and even controversial things like steering buttons take 5 minutes to get used to. [0] https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-the-worlds-best-selling-cars-from-2024/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-the-worlds-best-sell... [1] https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/most-and-least-liked-car-brands-a1291429338/ https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-s...
- BoredPositron 2y agoCitation needed.
- nixass 2y ago> Teslas sell very well Someone's been sleeping for last 12 months
- redeux 2y agoMaybe it’s part of the reason that Teslas are involved in more fatal accidents than any other car manufacturer. https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a62919131/tesla-has-highest-fatal-accident-rate-of-all-auto-brands-study/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a62919131/tesla-has-highes...
- porphyra 2y agoThat study was already debunked. They had underestimated the number of miles traveled by a large margin. https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/1gyznda/tesla_model_y_fatality_rates_exaggerated_in/ https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/1gyznda/t...
- redeux 2y agoThe study was debunked by a Tesla exec posting on X and reposted on Reddit. Excuse me if I view that with a very healthy amount of skepticism.
- concordDance 2y agoI'd happily wager $100 that in a couple of years time we'll have the data to conclude that Model Ys were not 3x more lethally dangerous than average. Would you take that bet?
- porphyra 2y agoThe Tesla exec has access to the actual figure for miles traveled and why should he lie about something like that? And just from visual inspection, it is evident that there are numerous surprises with the iSeeCars study that are difficult to explain. For example, why is there such a huge difference between Model 3 and Y fatality rates even though the cars are similar in most respects? Another thing to note is that the number of fatalities is only a handful, often under 10 in a year. The standard deviation of the Poisson distribution would already give error bars of 30% at least, making direct comparisons between models meaningless. Finally, if you read the accident reports, most of the fatalities are head on collisions with drunk drivers and not wearing seatbelts. Having physical controls for hvac or whatever has absolutely nothing to do with it.
- kadoban 2y ago> The Tesla exec has access to the actual figure for miles traveled and why should he lie about something like that? Because money?
- stfp 2y agoDo we believe that “people buy them and they like them” should be the end-all argument to judge everything? I think it’s a datapoint but it doesn’t mean that the thing is good for society or people themselves. Like 40% of people used to smoke. 40% of people are obese today. I’m not comparing these things to teslas in terms of harm (though funding musk is societal harm) but they prove that consumers can make very very bad choices and IMO do all the time The vocal minority acts as a valid canary, probably most of the time.
- jjcob 2y agoPeople buy them and might still hate the touch screen. I know I hate my car's touch screen. Just because people buy something doesn't mean they love every aspect of it.
- mmcclure 2y agoI overall liked our Model Y, but the infotainment/touch screen situation was my biggest complaint. We recently switched to an ID Buzz because our family outgrew the Y. The interior is a huge improvement over the Y (which, fair, it is a more expensive vehicle) and CarPlay is just objectively better than Tesla’s infotainment, but the rest of the software is pretty meh. I really miss a lot of little things like phone keys and a built in dash cam, though.
- greengreengrass 2y agoTeslas have a large driver base (note, likely doesn't apply to this forum) who don't know good engineering or design when they see it. They confuse "I spent good money on this" with "this is a good product". Sorry, we all have our opinions and perspective, but money isn't the only value judgement. I want my speedo in my easy line of vision on any vehicle I drive. I want to be able to demist my windscreen by reaching for a button I can find without taking my eyes off the road.
- tapoxi 2y agoI have an ID4 around that price, it keeps the lane and has a lane change assist. Is there any special sauce to autopilot?
- nixass 2y ago[flagged]
- lotsofpulp 2y agoI will be the first to say Elon is a Nazi and shouldn’t be in a leadership position. But it’s crazy to claim Model 3 and Y are not competitively priced products that are usable for many, many people. And I will also say I would not currently pay extra for a high end Tesla. But on the cheap end, and with the far superior buying experience without a stealership in the middle, it is welcome competition to the incumbent automakers.
- DecentShoes 2y agoWhat's your evidence that he's a nazi? Waving at a crowd doesn't count btw.
- dangus 2y agoOh it’s waving? You should upload a video of yourself doing it. Do it right now if it’s not a Nazi salute. I’ll wait for your upload.
- lotsofpulp 2y agoID4 was at least $10k more expensive in Oct 2024, with worse driving performance.
- korisnik 2y agoID4's price seems to be $42k in the US? How much is the Model Y? Or did ID4's price decrease to $42k recently?
- whoitwas 2y agoWindshield wipers, turn signal, heat? I feel like you're being dishonest or just accustomed to the hostility.
- lotsofpulp 2y agoWipers and turn signals are physical controls, I don’t find them much different than any other car. I haven’t had to change heat/cool settings, I have it set to 70F and I haven’t had to adjust it.
- whoitwas 2y agoSee. I'm a hacker. I need to control things. I bought the car and want access to it.
- dzhiurgis 2y agoThere’s an API and even third party buttons. I don’t think there’s any other modern car getting so much scrutiny. Ironically it is making it so much better than competitors they basically have no chance to catch up.
- whoitwas 2y agoI think you're describing Tesla, I have no idea lacking context. You couldn't pay me to drive Tesla at this point.
- yurishimo 2y agoIf they live in SoCal, 2/3 you listed might not be relevant. Paired with the battery degradation in cold climates… I also don’t see much reason to buy a Tesla in 2025. There are better quality interiors for less money. The only thing Tesla has going for them is acceleration (if you pay!) and that is only relevant on a racetrack to push the car to it’s limits. Any normal EV is plenty quick for daily driving.
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- snotrockets 2y agoHyundai and Kias have good ADAS, and can be had for less then a Tesla.
- nunez 2y agoNowhere near as good.
- snotrockets 2y agoYou can get better in a Mercedes, but it ain't cheap. Tesla ADAS isn't all that it made out to be: it's mostly very aggressive, which imo makes it more dangerous, especially to others. No wonder Tesla owners took the "most dangerous drivers" crown from Bimmer owners.