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>It's really astounding incompetence/dysfunction. The word is probably "corruption."

cactusplant7374 2y ago
It's only recently that Germany has considered Russia a threat. You would think Russia's attempt to destroy their economy would be a sign to move away from Nord Stream.
- immibis 2y ago
  In both the USA and Germany, people in power do not care about the well-being of their country as long as they can enrich themselves. They even both use the same fearmongering about immigrants to get votes.
  - 9dev 2y ago
    I think the xenophobia is actually coming from the lower layers of the society, and are merely picked up and directed into political actions by cunning politicians. It’s like a stream of lava that flows where they guide it to and destroys anything in its path.
    - immibis 2y ago
      I think there's always at least a background low level of xenophobia, and it's the choice of politicians to amplify it until it becomes a significant force in society. By the way, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, etc are reduced by mere exposure to other races, gay people, trans people, etc in a normal setting.
  - account42 2y ago
    The people in power in Germany are not "fearmongering" about immigrants, they are inviting them. To enrich themselves and/or collect feel good points at the expense of the population of course, you're right about that part.
astrange 2y ago
Germans aren't corrupt so much as psychotically trusting. Basically a country of scam victims who'll listen to anyone who wants them to shut down nuclear plants, buy Russian gas, conquer Europe, etc.
- lajosbacs 2y ago
  This is so well put, I have much admiration for Germans, but they just feel so gullible.
  - pavlov 2y ago
    Germans revered a business leader who turned out to be a Russian asset. But at least they accepted the evidence when it was presented. Americans elected a president who behaves exactly like a Russian asset. And no evidence could make them change their mind about it. Who are the gullible people again?
    - bloomingeek 2y ago
      I agree and I'm from the states. History will be unkind to trump and the GOP, who are playing with people's lives and fire.
      - jdhendrickson 2y ago
        It depends on who writes the history books in the states, and it's not looking good.
        lostlogin 2y ago
        It also depends on whether book written is deemed illegal.
        kevinventullo 2y ago
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It's only recently that Germany has considered Russia a threat. You would think Russia's attempt to destroy their economy would be a sign to move away from Nord Stream.

immibis 2y ago
In both the USA and Germany, people in power do not care about the well-being of their country as long as they can enrich themselves. They even both use the same fearmongering about immigrants to get votes.
- 9dev 2y ago
  I think the xenophobia is actually coming from the lower layers of the society, and are merely picked up and directed into political actions by cunning politicians. It’s like a stream of lava that flows where they guide it to and destroys anything in its path.
  - immibis 2y ago
    I think there's always at least a background low level of xenophobia, and it's the choice of politicians to amplify it until it becomes a significant force in society. By the way, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, etc are reduced by mere exposure to other races, gay people, trans people, etc in a normal setting.
- account42 2y ago
  The people in power in Germany are not "fearmongering" about immigrants, they are inviting them. To enrich themselves and/or collect feel good points at the expense of the population of course, you're right about that part.

astrange 2y ago

Germans aren't corrupt so much as psychotically trusting. Basically a country of scam victims who'll listen to anyone who wants them to shut down nuclear plants, buy Russian gas, conquer Europe, etc.

lajosbacs 2y ago
This is so well put, I have much admiration for Germans, but they just feel so gullible.
- pavlov 2y ago
  Germans revered a business leader who turned out to be a Russian asset. But at least they accepted the evidence when it was presented. Americans elected a president who behaves exactly like a Russian asset. And no evidence could make them change their mind about it. Who are the gullible people again?
  - bloomingeek 2y ago
    I agree and I'm from the states. History will be unkind to trump and the GOP, who are playing with people's lives and fire.
    - jdhendrickson 2y ago
      It depends on who writes the history books in the states, and it's not looking good.
      - lostlogin 2y ago
        It also depends on whether book written is deemed illegal.
        kevinventullo 2y ago
        Winners create the 5-second infotainment TikTok historical summary.