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What does "naturally occurring" mean in this context?
by cj 2y ago
What does "naturally occurring" mean in this context?
- Gys 2y ago> Svensson has co-founded a company to launch clinical trials of the molecule in humans in the near future. At least not so natural that just 'anybody' can put it in a bottle.
- Etheryte 2y agoI think this is not really a charitable take. For one, nearly everything medical needs certain purity and concentration so you need specialized equipment. For two, even if a chemical is easy to produce by industrial standards, you still need to run trials to prove that it's both safe and actually does what you hope it does.
- CharlieDigital 2y agoI wonder what the distinction here is between supplement and pharmaceutical. Could they have chosen to bring it to market as a supplement?
- _aavaa_ 2y agoThey could have, but they would have been seen as just another “weight loss supplement”. Which I imagine is a real uphill communication battle to convince people that you’re just not another scam.
- amanaplanacanal 2y agoI expect it has to be injected. Can you sell injectable supplements?
- DonHopkins 2y agoWell Trump just pardoned Ross Ulbricht who sold unapproved injectable drugs, so you can at least get away with shipping them into the United States, as long as you're not Mexican or Canadian.
- toast0 2y agoSupplements are often marketted with results from clinical trials; although typically not very rigorous trials. Raising money to do clinical trials doesn't indicate the path to market.
- connicpu 2y agoHaving to run trials has little to do with the whether the compound is naturally occurring and everything to do with the fact they intend to market it as a drug with specific effects
- FrustratedMonky 2y agoMost people think "natural" means they can just go into backyard, dig up some root, and get this for free. But its " Gila Monster’s venom". So natural, but you aren't going to just go out and eat it like resveratrol from wine. At this point, 'natural', just means made from atoms, yes atoms are naturally occurring.
- Clubber 2y ago>At this point, 'natural', just means made from atoms, yes atoms are naturally occurring. That pretty much covers everything in the universe. I've always thought it was natural vs synthesized.
- momocowcow 2y agoSee food packaging laws. Natural versus artificial flavorings :)
- FrustratedMonky 2y agoHave you checked out what qualifies for 'organic' according to laws. The laws aren't a good standard.
- frankbreetz 2y agoI may be missing some of your sarcasm, but "Gila Monster's venom" meets the strictest definition of natural.
- FrustratedMonky 2y agoMaybe, sarcasm was aimed at 'natural' being 'harmless' and/or common, because it is 'natural'. When really, just being 'natural', doesn't mean anything really. There are poisons that are 'natural'. Like resveratrol. Yes, it is natural and its in wine. But you need to drink many gallons a day to get enough to do anything. But people see 'Natural' and wine, and think it is a license to drink a lot.
- sharpshadow 2y agoI would say that the prohormone BPM/retinoic which BRP is derived from occurs in the body and is therefore natural. If it would be a derivate of BRP chemically similar patentable then it would not be natural. Even if BRP is made in the lab it’s still natural. AFAIK one can’t patent natural occurring molecules, only the process to make them.
- WithinReason 2y agoI wonder if it has to do with patentability
- HarHarVeryFunny 2y agoI'm assuming it means occuring somewhere in nature, but then the question is where. Is there some edible plant that contains this, perhaps?
- cj 2y agoAccording to the article they tested tens of thousands of amino acid chain peptides and used “AI” to find this one and synthesized it. Unless we expect that every protein combination exists somewhere in nature, this pretty much by definition isn’t naturally occurring.