Force in want sense? It's non-consensual. Just like garnishing wages, etc. >It is illegally depriving you of your property The legality of it is the main dist

Force in want sense? It's non-consensual. Just like garnishing wages, etc. >It is illegally depriving you of your property The legality of it is the main distinction but its just coincidental. Theft could be made legal or taxation could be made illegal. If that's the primary distinction then I think it just makes my point. I dont think what I'm really saying is even that controversial. The basic definition of theft is taking something from someone without their consent. I think the intuition is that I am arguing for no taxes, and that's what sounds so disagreeable, but thats not what I'm saying. The government has a monopoly on violence, theft, etc. Its just how it works. And we're better off with government than without it.