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> it is where enthusiasm is met with "bad girls" energy. What does that mean?

by Mashimo 2y ago

bsenftner 2y ago
Group mentality that picks and chooses who is "cool" and then bullies everyone else.
- bo0tzz 2y ago
  Sounds to me like you're hanging out with the wrong people.
- Mashimo 2y ago
  But I assume that is because of the people on that specific server, not because of the software? Or is there something about discord that enables it, that IRC etc. does not have? I hang out with friends that predate discord, on discord and can't see it. Same with new servers.
  - dingnuts 2y ago
    happens on irc constantly too chat rooms are cliques, almost always choose any sufficiently populated room on libera chat, join, and start talking a lot without lurking first for awhile and see how the inhabitants react
    - agelas 2y ago
      [dead]
    - ghostpepper 2y ago
      try going to a pub on a Saturday night, walking up to a group of people you’ve never met, having a conversation, and start talking about something completely unrelated, and see how they react. what you’re seeing in online chat communities is just basic social interaction reflected online
- smittywerben 2y ago
  I've never been in a Discord server and thought "Wow this server doesn't do the moderator LARP-ing thing".
  - sph 2y ago
    My dream is to be invited into a mildly popular server (more than 15 users), than doesn't have 50 channels, 8 separate roles and T&C to agree to. It hasn't happened yet. An entire generation of bureaucrats and bean counters is learning the ropes on Discord.
    - networked 2y ago
      This shows Discord is a genuine successor to Web 1.0 forums. :-) Unnecessary channels are unnecessary subforums. User roles are user ranks (https://www.phpbb.com/support/docs/en/3.1/kb/article/everything-you-need-to-know-about-ranks-v3x/ https://www.phpbb.com/support/docs/en/3.1/kb/article/everyth...), indicating both software permissions and social status. T&C—well, forum engines like phpBB, MyBB, and SMF come with a standard user agreement they show before registration. There is more concern with it now because the Internet is real life. As for training an entire generation of bureaucrats and bean-counters, I leave it to the reader to judge.
      - pestaa 2y ago
        I like this take. There was something unique how each bulletin board was customized to the administrator's taste. And it was up to them to provide plenty onboarding to new users, so they're not overwhelmed by the hundreds of subcategories, and thousands of threads in each. We used to be part of no more than a handful of forum communities. Maybe that changed.
    - doctorhandshake 2y ago
      I started and mod a server of about 6k users for a community around a niche software used by professionals, students, and hobbyists. We keep it really simple and focused primarily on people getting questions answered. Recently a small but vocal cadre of hobbyists have been demanding more Discord-y features oriented towards socializing with other users of the software, and our reticence to complicate the server and add features just because Discord offers them has been a point of contention. They seem to think we mods don’t understand Discord. We are having trouble getting them to understand that we are aware of what other servers are like and that we’re deliberately choosing not go that route.
- fazeirony 2y ago
  i'm on a number of discord servers. yes, some have that 'mean girls' vibe but considering the content, i expect that. the more tech oriented ones i'm on...that's not an issue at all. to me, in general the vibe of a given discord is similar to the general vibe of that topic (i.e some games have terrible, vitriolic cesspools for communities and those discords reflect that. other things, such as one of the rust ones i'm on, reflects that community's vibe which is a lot more wholesome imo).
- Capricorn2481 2y ago
  So basically Hacker News.
Melonai 2y ago
I think they might've meant "mean girls" energy... :)

> it is where enthusiasm is met with "bad girls" energy. What does that mean?

bsenftner 2y ago

Group mentality that picks and chooses who is "cool" and then bullies everyone else.

bo0tzz 2y ago
Sounds to me like you're hanging out with the wrong people.
Mashimo 2y ago
But I assume that is because of the people on that specific server, not because of the software? Or is there something about discord that enables it, that IRC etc. does not have? I hang out with friends that predate discord, on discord and can't see it. Same with new servers.
- dingnuts 2y ago
  happens on irc constantly too chat rooms are cliques, almost always choose any sufficiently populated room on libera chat, join, and start talking a lot without lurking first for awhile and see how the inhabitants react
  - agelas 2y ago
    [dead]
  - ghostpepper 2y ago
    try going to a pub on a Saturday night, walking up to a group of people you’ve never met, having a conversation, and start talking about something completely unrelated, and see how they react. what you’re seeing in online chat communities is just basic social interaction reflected online
smittywerben 2y ago
I've never been in a Discord server and thought "Wow this server doesn't do the moderator LARP-ing thing".
- sph 2y ago
  My dream is to be invited into a mildly popular server (more than 15 users), than doesn't have 50 channels, 8 separate roles and T&C to agree to. It hasn't happened yet. An entire generation of bureaucrats and bean counters is learning the ropes on Discord.
  - networked 2y ago
    This shows Discord is a genuine successor to Web 1.0 forums. :-) Unnecessary channels are unnecessary subforums. User roles are user ranks (https://www.phpbb.com/support/docs/en/3.1/kb/article/everything-you-need-to-know-about-ranks-v3x/ https://www.phpbb.com/support/docs/en/3.1/kb/article/everyth...), indicating both software permissions and social status. T&C—well, forum engines like phpBB, MyBB, and SMF come with a standard user agreement they show before registration. There is more concern with it now because the Internet is real life. As for training an entire generation of bureaucrats and bean-counters, I leave it to the reader to judge.
    - pestaa 2y ago
      I like this take. There was something unique how each bulletin board was customized to the administrator's taste. And it was up to them to provide plenty onboarding to new users, so they're not overwhelmed by the hundreds of subcategories, and thousands of threads in each. We used to be part of no more than a handful of forum communities. Maybe that changed.
  - doctorhandshake 2y ago
    I started and mod a server of about 6k users for a community around a niche software used by professionals, students, and hobbyists. We keep it really simple and focused primarily on people getting questions answered. Recently a small but vocal cadre of hobbyists have been demanding more Discord-y features oriented towards socializing with other users of the software, and our reticence to complicate the server and add features just because Discord offers them has been a point of contention. They seem to think we mods don’t understand Discord. We are having trouble getting them to understand that we are aware of what other servers are like and that we’re deliberately choosing not go that route.
fazeirony 2y ago
i'm on a number of discord servers. yes, some have that 'mean girls' vibe but considering the content, i expect that. the more tech oriented ones i'm on...that's not an issue at all. to me, in general the vibe of a given discord is similar to the general vibe of that topic (i.e some games have terrible, vitriolic cesspools for communities and those discords reflect that. other things, such as one of the rust ones i'm on, reflects that community's vibe which is a lot more wholesome imo).
Capricorn2481 2y ago
So basically Hacker News.

Melonai 2y ago

I think they might've meant "mean girls" energy... :)