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'Trump Gaza' AI video intended as political satire, says creator

47 points by beardyw 2y ago

morkalork 2y ago
Took it down because they didn't want to take a side or be insensitive? Only shared it with friends and didn't think it would go further? The story reeks of CYA.
- AstroJetson 2y ago
  Exactly, it scary to wake up and see your yard full of “Free Gaza” supporters while a team of executives from Kiewit Construction are knocking at your door.
- doix 2y ago
  Really? I find it very believable, you make a high quality meme for your friend group. Someone decides to spread it further and now far-right people are taking it seriously when it's taking the piss out of the people involved.
- JetSpiegel 2y ago
  Shared with his friend Mel Gibson. A Jewish guy.
prox 2y ago
I honestly don’t know how we (as in all of us) gonna solve the information cycle pollution and have a news delivery platform that people on the left and on the right of things can agree on. That a satire video can be flipped and portrayed as an honest view held by the president (as he posted it) is telling.
- unglaublich 2y ago
  Humor based on absurdism doesn't work well if you always do absurd things.
- exe34 2y ago
  one man's satire is another man's fervent belief. Poe's law.
- chneu 2y ago
  Hank Green over on youtube did a fun look back at history and "disruptive" technologies. He likened today's social media to the invention of the printing press. It's a pretty fun video. He calls Martin Luther a troll, which is pretty good. I think it's this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8PndpFPL8g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8PndpFPL8g
  - prox 2y ago
    Gonna take a look at that, social media certainly has been disruptive.
    - chneu 2y ago
      It's a fun take on it. I dont know if Green is correct, but it's a fun thing to think about.
Protostome 2y ago
Turkey took millions of Syrian refugees, Germany in particular and a lot of european countries accepted many more from all over the middle east. Food for thought why Egypt and Jordan refuse to ease the sufferring of Gazans by offering them temporary refugee statuses, until Hamas is eradicated and they could live in Gaza happily ever after.
- wruza 2y ago
  It stems from that nice picture that politicians of the first world paint to their voters. Which is, there are countries, and they all live in friendship, and sometimes boo boo happens and good guys do good things and bad guys don’t do good things. This political infantilization goes all over the world. I learn nothing about that region cause there’s no need to. Absolutely sure that Gaza conflict is not about historically bad neighborship, but about multiple large political forces funding armed groups to retain various destabilizing vectors. And both Jordan and Egypt and a bunch of other clans around have their hands elbow deep in this muppet show, while being partially sponsored by the same good guys who call for the resolve. Also, even in a scenario where this happens, Hamas will feel betrayed and won’t just allow mass exodus for free. Meat shield is all it has.
  - Protostome 2y ago
    I agree. the good vs. bad guys narrative that dominates many western countries is toxic.
  - pjc50 2y ago
    > about multiple large political forces funding armed groups to retain various destabilizing vectors Especially Iran, but also Hamas can freely fundraise in several of the other gulf states. Don't forget that there are internal anti-peace factions on the Israeli side too, such as those who assassinated Yitzhak Rabin and terminated the last working peace process.
  - siltcakes 2y ago
    People should learn about Palestine because all you have to do is read about The Balfour Declaration and Nakba and it becomes crystal clear that the Zionists are "the bad guys", is there doubt about Nazis? It's the same situation.
volleyball 2y ago
Maybe the creator could make a similar satirical video set in Auschwitz. The place is kinda dreary and not life-affirming. [1] - More about the creator - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo_Avital https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo_Avital
- Protostome 2y ago
  People (men, women and children) were exterminated in gas chambers in Auschweitz Comparing this with the war in Gaza is ignorance or just manipulation. Gaza was (and actually, still is) a home to a murderous organization that terrorized not only Israelis, but also its own people for 20 years. Gay men were thrown off the roofs to their deaths in Gaza shortly after Hamas took over violently, political opponents were brutally murdered. Hell, whole families were burned on Oct 7th, to the chants of "Allah Akbar". It blows my mind that people don't know that wars lead to casualties, even in the civilian side. I think that since it has been 2-3 generations without any serious conflict in the west, people are simply not familiar with the nature of war. There's genocide, and there's war. Those are not the same.
  - regularjack 2y ago
    Yes, there is genocide and there is war, and most of the world knows which one is currently happening in Palestine.
    - Ozarkian 2y ago
      For those of us in the world who don't know, which one is it?
      - siltcakes 2y ago
        Genocide.
    - Protostome 2y ago
      Really? there was a poll or a vote I missed? There's one thing I'm sure I missed in this all narrative - evidence.
xg15 2y ago
I'd believe it. At least I found it odd how many weird and straight-up unflattering scenes of Trump, Musk and Netanyahu were in the video, for what should ostensibly be a video to sell their idea. (Bearded belly-dancers? Trump and Netanyahu in skimpy swimsuits? Musk standing in a rainfall of dollar bills? What audience would see those as positive depictions?) It seems like obvious satire (even though extremely tasteless), except for the fact that Trump posted it in all earnesty. So I guess this says more about Trump than about the video creator...
- vibrio 2y ago
  Agreed with your point. Satire relies on Truth for context. At the moment, both are critically wounded, if not dead.

47 points by beardyw 2y ago

Took it down because they didn't want to take a side or be insensitive? Only shared it with friends and didn't think it would go further? The story reeks of CYA.

AstroJetson 2y ago
Exactly, it scary to wake up and see your yard full of “Free Gaza” supporters while a team of executives from Kiewit Construction are knocking at your door.
doix 2y ago
Really? I find it very believable, you make a high quality meme for your friend group. Someone decides to spread it further and now far-right people are taking it seriously when it's taking the piss out of the people involved.
JetSpiegel 2y ago
Shared with his friend Mel Gibson. A Jewish guy.

prox 2y ago

I honestly don’t know how we (as in all of us) gonna solve the information cycle pollution and have a news delivery platform that people on the left and on the right of things can agree on. That a satire video can be flipped and portrayed as an honest view held by the president (as he posted it) is telling.

unglaublich 2y ago
Humor based on absurdism doesn't work well if you always do absurd things.
exe34 2y ago
one man's satire is another man's fervent belief. Poe's law.
chneu 2y ago
Hank Green over on youtube did a fun look back at history and "disruptive" technologies. He likened today's social media to the invention of the printing press. It's a pretty fun video. He calls Martin Luther a troll, which is pretty good. I think it's this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8PndpFPL8g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8PndpFPL8g
- prox 2y ago
  Gonna take a look at that, social media certainly has been disruptive.
  - chneu 2y ago
    It's a fun take on it. I dont know if Green is correct, but it's a fun thing to think about.

Protostome 2y ago

Turkey took millions of Syrian refugees, Germany in particular and a lot of european countries accepted many more from all over the middle east. Food for thought why Egypt and Jordan refuse to ease the sufferring of Gazans by offering them temporary refugee statuses, until Hamas is eradicated and they could live in Gaza happily ever after.

wruza 2y ago
It stems from that nice picture that politicians of the first world paint to their voters. Which is, there are countries, and they all live in friendship, and sometimes boo boo happens and good guys do good things and bad guys don’t do good things. This political infantilization goes all over the world. I learn nothing about that region cause there’s no need to. Absolutely sure that Gaza conflict is not about historically bad neighborship, but about multiple large political forces funding armed groups to retain various destabilizing vectors. And both Jordan and Egypt and a bunch of other clans around have their hands elbow deep in this muppet show, while being partially sponsored by the same good guys who call for the resolve. Also, even in a scenario where this happens, Hamas will feel betrayed and won’t just allow mass exodus for free. Meat shield is all it has.
- Protostome 2y ago
  I agree. the good vs. bad guys narrative that dominates many western countries is toxic.
- pjc50 2y ago
  > about multiple large political forces funding armed groups to retain various destabilizing vectors Especially Iran, but also Hamas can freely fundraise in several of the other gulf states. Don't forget that there are internal anti-peace factions on the Israeli side too, such as those who assassinated Yitzhak Rabin and terminated the last working peace process.
- siltcakes 2y ago
  People should learn about Palestine because all you have to do is read about The Balfour Declaration and Nakba and it becomes crystal clear that the Zionists are "the bad guys", is there doubt about Nazis? It's the same situation.

volleyball 2y ago

Maybe the creator could make a similar satirical video set in Auschwitz. The place is kinda dreary and not life-affirming. [1] - More about the creator - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo_Avital https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo_Avital

Protostome 2y ago
People (men, women and children) were exterminated in gas chambers in Auschweitz Comparing this with the war in Gaza is ignorance or just manipulation. Gaza was (and actually, still is) a home to a murderous organization that terrorized not only Israelis, but also its own people for 20 years. Gay men were thrown off the roofs to their deaths in Gaza shortly after Hamas took over violently, political opponents were brutally murdered. Hell, whole families were burned on Oct 7th, to the chants of "Allah Akbar". It blows my mind that people don't know that wars lead to casualties, even in the civilian side. I think that since it has been 2-3 generations without any serious conflict in the west, people are simply not familiar with the nature of war. There's genocide, and there's war. Those are not the same.
- regularjack 2y ago
  Yes, there is genocide and there is war, and most of the world knows which one is currently happening in Palestine.
  - Ozarkian 2y ago
    For those of us in the world who don't know, which one is it?
    - siltcakes 2y ago
      Genocide.
  - Protostome 2y ago
    Really? there was a poll or a vote I missed? There's one thing I'm sure I missed in this all narrative - evidence.

xg15 2y ago

I'd believe it. At least I found it odd how many weird and straight-up unflattering scenes of Trump, Musk and Netanyahu were in the video, for what should ostensibly be a video to sell their idea. (Bearded belly-dancers? Trump and Netanyahu in skimpy swimsuits? Musk standing in a rainfall of dollar bills? What audience would see those as positive depictions?) It seems like obvious satire (even though extremely tasteless), except for the fact that Trump posted it in all earnesty. So I guess this says more about Trump than about the video creator...

vibrio 2y ago
Agreed with your point. Satire relies on Truth for context. At the moment, both are critically wounded, if not dead.