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If UK is already doing this, then what's them from banning all new iPhones? Some countries do.
by doublerabbit 2y ago
If UK is already doing this, then what's them from banning all new iPhones? Some countries do.
- mikestew 2y agothen what's them from banning all new iPhones? The torches and pitchforks that are soon to follow? You might get away with that in oppressive “some countries”, but I just can’t imagine it ending well in someplace like the UK.
- andrewflnr 2y agoI'd hope so, but you never know what you can get people to tolerate "for the children". This is, after all, the same UK population that voted these halfwits into power.
- nicoburns 2y agoThe children themselves would be in the streets protesting if you banned iPhones in the UK.
- andrewflnr 2y agoNaturally we have to protect them from themselves. /s
- andylynch 2y agoMy kid just brought this up today- it’s absolutely a concern for their age group.
- FirmwareBurner 2y agoIf it's indeed like you say, that sounds like a monopoly that should be addressed, not protected and allowed to do as it pleases. Sure, it's orthogonal to the EE backdoor issue, but Apple or any other company, having a monopoly of a nations youths means of communication is still an issue.
- thatguy0900 2y agoIt's a monopoly to make a product that most children want over the competition? What would the solution even be here? Force iphones to be shittier?
- FirmwareBurner 2y agoYes when you corner an entire market, regardless how you got there, it's still called a monopoly. Read a book before trying to be a smartass.
- jmye 2y agoThe market hasn’t been “cornered” any more than breakfast has been “cornered” by eggs and bacon, but I dig the irony, here. How do you plan to address this supposed monopoly? Force all children born in February and March to use Android only? Demand that people respond better to Samsung’s marketing? I’m a bit curious how you de-“monopolize” something consumers are choosing over numerous, plentiful competition.
- FirmwareBurner 2y agoAfter you learn to read, read these, then look in the mirror: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/21/technology/apple-doj-lawsuit-antitrust.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/21/technology/apple-doj-laws... https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-apple-monopolizing-smartphone-markets https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-apple...
- jmye 2y agoGiven you’re clearly a much better reader, can you explain how Apple’s, apparently, anti-competitive app ecosystem (from your links) is remotely similar to your assertion that merely being a more popular device with consumers is monopolistic? I mean, you did read those links right? You didn’t just google “apple monopoly” and then paste the results?
- giuseppe_petri 2y ago>these halfwits You're doing them a favour calling them halfwits, if most of the current crop of British politicians were light bulbs they wouldn't be bright enough the light the cupboard under my stairs.
- HenryBemis 2y agoThat is the BEST trick politicians ever play on voters. They prefer to be called "stupid" while the end up their political careers millionaires, and getting hire in large-ehvil-corps doing FA for 6-7 digits per year. I believe one of the filthiest snakes out there is Boris Johnson; yes the lunatic with the silly hair, who can recite HOMER in ANCIENT GREEK. And people still think he is 'stupid'? And all he does is 'mistakes'???? He is the filthiest of all snakes - except from his true masters (who is not the people). So.. yeah. If they end up broke and in jail, they are stupid. If they end up working for 7 digits, and you cannot afford a home.. well..
- mikrl 2y agoThis conclusion reframed my views of certain politicians, popularly assumed to be blithering idiots. You don’t get there by being incompetent, you get there by being amazing at manipulation, cunning and whatever the positive coded synonyms of those words are. Butchering common phrases on live TV, or spouting verifiable falsehoods are all part of the game. I feel stupid myself for not playing it as well.
- andrewflnr 2y ago> amazing at manipulation, cunning and [etc] I think someone can be very good at those and also very stupid when it comes to, say, encryption and societal side effects thereof. In fact I think it's quite common. Intelligence is multi-dimensional.
- HenryBemis 2y agoAn intelligent person can understand what is encryption if they really want to. A member of a parliament that is trying to revoke all encryption, everywhere, does it because his/her masters demand so, not because they care. Also, a good politician hates 'encryption' because they can't read your messages, read your mind, so you are dangerous because you can have independent thought which they cannot identify in order to manipulate. Facebook/Cambridge Analytica is an amazing example for this.
- yakshaving_jgt 2y agoWe also voted Starmer into power, who is one of the few leaders of the free world with a spine. It's not that black and white.
- PrivacyDingus 2y agoCan I ask what it is that makes you believe he has a spine? His fawning over Trump didn't dispell this? Or his constant changes in direction?
- yakshaving_jgt 2y agoWell he hasn’t taken Trump’s direction on the war, has he?
- rob_c 2y agoLol. If trump said jump it wouldn't be how high it'd be straight in front of a bullet for this lot. It's pretending to claim we have a position other than pandering to both the EU and Trump whilst not actually taking responsibility to do anything (other than act as a banker)
- dambi0 2y agoYou could just as well argue that changing direction or admitting you got things wrong requires more spine than blindly sticking to the same direction even in light of new information. Whether that applies to Starmer is a matter of opinion I suppose
- andrewflnr 2y agoI mean, sure, the US also elected some people who oppose the wannabe fascist dictator in chief, but we did elect the wannabe fascist dictator. There are a lot of forces, but the vector sum is distinctly fuckwitted.
- coldtea 2y agoStarmer has a spine? He's a warmongering careerist shill, hateful of his own people, who never did anything remotely worthy of the Labour party pre-Blair legacy... One of the least spine-owing politicians in the world
- jalapenos 2y agoIn the UK people would at most grumble about it severely and then let it happen.
- rob_c 2y agothat is what the populous does best unfortunately
- jjani 2y agoBread and circuses is what stops them. Whoever would get the iPhone banned is guaranteed never to win another election. Like banning beer or football. It would also be banning Macbooks, imagine what companies would have to say about that. The reason Apple isn't calling their bluff is not that they're scared the UK will actually ban their products. It's for optical and political reasons.
- maxglute 2y agoI don't know how UK electorate feels about this, global backdoor feels like much more unreasonable ask than domestic backdoor. Really takes particular hubris to ask for it in the first place.
- moomin 2y agoThere’s not really a difference. Once you’ve got the ability to selectively disable encryption and you’ve folded to one regime, you’re gonna fold to them all.
- kranke155 2y agoHold the population used iPhones. Wouldn’t be very popular.