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> featuring M4 Max and new M3 Ultra I hate that this naming shit has gotten so bad
by petesergeant 2y ago
> featuring M4 Max and new M3 Ultra
I hate that this naming shit has gotten so bad
- blobbers 2y agoAgree. This ship is adrift. Remember when it was just a MacBook, or air, or pro and it had a year.
- whynotminot 2y agoIt’s really not that complicated guys. It’s definitely a little odd to have M3 Ultra > M4 Max, but I feel like anyone complaining about this must have never bought any other manufacturers’ wares in their lives. Obtuse complication is kind of the norm in this industry.
- rsynnott 2y agoOh, but things were far worse back then, in terms of knowing what you were getting. For instance, let's say you bought a 13" MacBook Pro in 2016. Do you have a dual core or quad core processor? Depends on whether you have a touchbar! (For reasons best known to themselves, Apple made two completely different 13" MBPs that year, both new, with the loathed butterfly keyboard, weighing a different amount, with different processors, and the same name.)
- pram 2y agoLiterally not even the same thing you're comparing. There were more processor and graphics options. Want an i5, i7, or i9 and what about a RX 580, 5300, 5500, 5700, or 5700XT?
- caconym_ 2y agoHas it? These names are basically (architecture version, amount of compute) tuples. Much better than what AMD, Intel, Nvidia, etc. are currently doing.
- InitialLastName 2y agoWhich is a bigger amount of compute, "max" or "ultra"?
- caconym_ 2y agoThis question is trivially answered by visiting Apple's website, which is---to my point---not generally true for their competition. If you have some further point to make, I recommend stating it more clearly so we can avoid wasting time here.
- alexjplant 2y agoWhy is the "Ultra" more powerful than the "Max"? I would expect "Max" to mean "maximum" in this context but it seems to mean "directly subordinate to that which is the maximum". This is pretty obviously a point of confusion. Just because other CPU manufacturers do goofy stuff with naming doesn't mean that Apple is exempt from criticism for doing something so obviously bereft of common sense.
- caconym_ 2y agoWell then, it's a good thing I didn't say anywhere that they should be exempt from criticism. Incidentally, it's not something I believe. But I do think they are still doing a much better job at naming than other CPU manufacturers, despite the obnoxious Pro/Max/Ultra stuff. I suppose I commented here because I think people are letting their subjective distaste for those terms sway their opinion of a superior naming scheme.
- brianmurphy 2y agoI would expect the M4 being a newer generation of the chip to be faster than a M3, but apparently that's not what Apple did.
- wpm 2y agoWhy would you expect that? Also, the M4 is faster than the M3, but that doesn't mean Apple couldn't or didn't want to fuse two of them together for an M4 Ultra. Is an Intel 10700K faster than a 12400F? The generations are different but the chips have vastly different capabilities and features. M4 is the generation. The modifier modifies the generation. M4 Pro is an M4 with some extra pizzaz. M4 Max is an M4 with lots of extra pizzaz.
- dialup_sounds 2y agoIf you think that's bad, have you looked at Intel and AMD's naming scheme lately?