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Putting Bounties on My Goals

31 points by krayorn 2y ago

lukew3 2y ago
Kinda obvious this was written last minute haha. Basically rewriting this idea we've all heard many times. Good luck though!
- tannerc 2y ago
  Much of blogging (and creation in any form) is often exactly that: an existing idea remixed or reconsidered from someone else’s perspective. After-all, the telephone wasn’t all that an original idea for a long while before the idea finally reached a salient and effective point. My take has always been: just because you and I have heard the concept before does not mean everyone has. And if one person finds it helpful to read in this way, that’s a nice thing to have provided the world. :)
  - redeux 2y ago
    You said it well. We all stand on the shoulders of those that came before us.
kreas 2y ago
This actually sounds like a great idea. I procrastinate a lot. I also play a lot of Raid Shadow Legends. I should totally gate those purchases behind hitting my goals. Thanks for sharing.
pj_mukh 2y ago
Shoutout https://www.beeminder.com https://www.beeminder.com
- deleted 2y ago
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hedgedoops2 2y ago
https://suboptimalism.neocities.org/optimalism/posts/shock-collar-productivity/ https://suboptimalism.neocities.org/optimalism/posts/shock-c...
- laptopdev 2y ago
  I was using the land mine method, but it didn't trigger reliably. Now I use SmartBomb™.
erelong 2y ago
I think the only issue is on some things, rewards can undermine intrinsic motivation... external rewards work for tasks where extrinsic motivation works well
- Ethee 2y ago
  I think this mainly comes down to how good you are at systematic thinking. For example it's really hard to build a habit without some form of reward mechanism, but once that habit is built the reward comes from the consistency of keeping the habit. This type of reward oriented behavior is probably quite good for that initial difficulty most people have in building a habit, but once you have the system in place it becomes second nature to keep doing the task and as a consequence usually introduces some negative association with skipping it. Think the gym for example.
sebg 2y ago
Enjoyed the blog post and great job getting it done by the 28th. How did you choose what you were going to penalize yourself with?
- krayorn 2y ago
  I took something easy to do and that my friend would remind me to do => sending him cash, and selected an amount that was not so big that I'd resent him, but big enough that I didn't want to give it away!
threeio 2y ago
I did this for a year or two when my first kid was born... I assigned penalty dollars with actions that I knew weren't good for me... didn't run for a week (outside of travel) 10$ to the kids account... stopped for fast food as opposed to having a real meal, 10$. It was surprisingly effective for what was a stressful time and in the end gave some real benefit to their compound interest long term... all because I was being lazy and grabbed a burger for lunch :)
ct0 2y ago
How does this interact with Structured Procrastination? Im a huge fan and avid strut-castinator. This is an entirely different approach to accomplishing goals though, as I'm frugal and hate to waste money. https://www.structuredprocrastination.com/ https://www.structuredprocrastination.com/
joshmit 2y ago
Try the Forfeit App: https://www.forfeit.app https://www.forfeit.app
dsp_person 2y ago
Isn't the real hack to offer $30 to anyone who can do the task for you?
cytocync 2y ago
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aeblyve 2y ago
It is also possible that blogging is just not a good thing for this person to be doing right now, if they don't want to do it, it can be an informed conclusion of the brain. Setting up an authoritarian system to force blogging might just be that, an imposition, and not an aid to the life process.
D-Coder 2y ago
I put "Stab self with fork" on my to-do list. Every other task gets done first.
vunderba 2y ago
> "publicly tweeted that I would send 30€ to a friend of mine if I didn’t have a blog post online by the end of the month." Publicly tweeted huh? Well geez you're really on the hook now. Call me back when you've finished the app that forces you to place the money in a secure escrow which checks your blog's RSS feed to determine whether or not to return the cash. On a more "serious" note, there have been quite a few of apps/concepts around a monetary penalty for not doing something - I think going to the gym was a big one. Probably be pretty easy to implement an app where you have to meet a GPS radial condition for X minutes per week.
HermanMartinus 2y ago
Interestingly enough, this is how I tricked myself into quitting smoking. I withdrew $100, and told my good friend that I’d give it to him if I used anything with nicotine in it. It worked pretty well since it turns that first cigarette into a $100 cigarette. Not worth it at all. And I haven’t smoked in 7 years :)
- triyambakam 2y ago
  Good job! But I would caution that you probably were just not addicted to nicotine. You may not have the genes for addiction, or it just was not yet activated.
  - al_borland 2y ago
    It can often be the habits and routines that are hard to stop than the physical addiction.
  - imtringued 2y ago
    Most people aren't addicted to nicotine. They are addicted to the burnt additives. This is why vaping tends to work really well if you want to quit. It's just water and nicotine.
    - triyambakam 2y ago
      That's wildly untrue. Many people just end up addicted to vaping instead.
mcint 2y ago
Looks like the blog migration is incomplete -- links still point to the former https://andysblog.uk/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://andysblog.uk/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://andysblog.uk/why-your-blog-post-didnt-go-viral/ https://andysblog.uk/why-your-blog-post-didnt-go-viral/ Which now 404s, with message from Vercel, "Deployment not found", sfo trace ids. Congratulations on migrating to a new domain -- hope Vercel serves you well. A little disappointing about the lack of easy redirecting so far. https://web.archive.org/web/20250219111210/https://andysblog.uk/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250219111210/https://andysblog... https://web.archive.org/web/20250214201735/https://andysblog.uk/why-your-blog-post-didnt-go-viral/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250214201735/https://andysblog... Bearblog.dev no less.
- mcint 2y ago
  Well, simple guesses at migration don't help either. https://www.krayorn.com/posts/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://www.krayorn.com/posts/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://www.krayorn.com/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://www.krayorn.com/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ Good luck with the personal blogging infrastructure, hobby horse of many a working developer. Good excuse to play with new systems.
  - krayorn 2y ago
    Damn! I did not migrate anything, these two posts were from someone else's blog and they were up less than a week ago! Web link decay strikes again, I'll check if I can find where this person blog again, thanks for noticing.
rhizoma 2y ago
Never used it, but a more aggressive fitbit: https://shop.pavlok.com/ https://shop.pavlok.com/

31 points by krayorn 2y ago

Kinda obvious this was written last minute haha. Basically rewriting this idea we've all heard many times. Good luck though!

tannerc 2y ago
Much of blogging (and creation in any form) is often exactly that: an existing idea remixed or reconsidered from someone else’s perspective. After-all, the telephone wasn’t all that an original idea for a long while before the idea finally reached a salient and effective point. My take has always been: just because you and I have heard the concept before does not mean everyone has. And if one person finds it helpful to read in this way, that’s a nice thing to have provided the world. :)
- redeux 2y ago
  You said it well. We all stand on the shoulders of those that came before us.

kreas 2y ago

This actually sounds like a great idea. I procrastinate a lot. I also play a lot of Raid Shadow Legends. I should totally gate those purchases behind hitting my goals. Thanks for sharing.

pj_mukh 2y ago

Shoutout https://www.beeminder.com https://www.beeminder.com

deleted 2y ago
[deleted]

hedgedoops2 2y ago

https://suboptimalism.neocities.org/optimalism/posts/shock-collar-productivity/ https://suboptimalism.neocities.org/optimalism/posts/shock-c...

laptopdev 2y ago
I was using the land mine method, but it didn't trigger reliably. Now I use SmartBomb™.

erelong 2y ago

I think the only issue is on some things, rewards can undermine intrinsic motivation... external rewards work for tasks where extrinsic motivation works well

Ethee 2y ago
I think this mainly comes down to how good you are at systematic thinking. For example it's really hard to build a habit without some form of reward mechanism, but once that habit is built the reward comes from the consistency of keeping the habit. This type of reward oriented behavior is probably quite good for that initial difficulty most people have in building a habit, but once you have the system in place it becomes second nature to keep doing the task and as a consequence usually introduces some negative association with skipping it. Think the gym for example.

sebg 2y ago

Enjoyed the blog post and great job getting it done by the 28th. How did you choose what you were going to penalize yourself with?

krayorn 2y ago
I took something easy to do and that my friend would remind me to do => sending him cash, and selected an amount that was not so big that I'd resent him, but big enough that I didn't want to give it away!

threeio 2y ago

I did this for a year or two when my first kid was born... I assigned penalty dollars with actions that I knew weren't good for me... didn't run for a week (outside of travel) 10$ to the kids account... stopped for fast food as opposed to having a real meal, 10$. It was surprisingly effective for what was a stressful time and in the end gave some real benefit to their compound interest long term... all because I was being lazy and grabbed a burger for lunch :)

ct0 2y ago

How does this interact with Structured Procrastination? Im a huge fan and avid strut-castinator. This is an entirely different approach to accomplishing goals though, as I'm frugal and hate to waste money. https://www.structuredprocrastination.com/ https://www.structuredprocrastination.com/

joshmit 2y ago

Try the Forfeit App: https://www.forfeit.app https://www.forfeit.app

dsp_person 2y ago

Isn't the real hack to offer $30 to anyone who can do the task for you?

cytocync 2y ago

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aeblyve 2y ago

It is also possible that blogging is just not a good thing for this person to be doing right now, if they don't want to do it, it can be an informed conclusion of the brain. Setting up an authoritarian system to force blogging might just be that, an imposition, and not an aid to the life process.

D-Coder 2y ago

I put "Stab self with fork" on my to-do list. Every other task gets done first.

vunderba 2y ago

> "publicly tweeted that I would send 30€ to a friend of mine if I didn’t have a blog post online by the end of the month." Publicly tweeted huh? Well geez you're really on the hook now. Call me back when you've finished the app that forces you to place the money in a secure escrow which checks your blog's RSS feed to determine whether or not to return the cash. On a more "serious" note, there have been quite a few of apps/concepts around a monetary penalty for not doing something - I think going to the gym was a big one. Probably be pretty easy to implement an app where you have to meet a GPS radial condition for X minutes per week.

HermanMartinus 2y ago

Interestingly enough, this is how I tricked myself into quitting smoking. I withdrew $100, and told my good friend that I’d give it to him if I used anything with nicotine in it. It worked pretty well since it turns that first cigarette into a $100 cigarette. Not worth it at all. And I haven’t smoked in 7 years :)

triyambakam 2y ago
Good job! But I would caution that you probably were just not addicted to nicotine. You may not have the genes for addiction, or it just was not yet activated.
- al_borland 2y ago
  It can often be the habits and routines that are hard to stop than the physical addiction.
- imtringued 2y ago
  Most people aren't addicted to nicotine. They are addicted to the burnt additives. This is why vaping tends to work really well if you want to quit. It's just water and nicotine.
  - triyambakam 2y ago
    That's wildly untrue. Many people just end up addicted to vaping instead.

mcint 2y ago

Looks like the blog migration is incomplete -- links still point to the former https://andysblog.uk/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://andysblog.uk/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://andysblog.uk/why-your-blog-post-didnt-go-viral/ https://andysblog.uk/why-your-blog-post-didnt-go-viral/ Which now 404s, with message from Vercel, "Deployment not found", sfo trace ids. Congratulations on migrating to a new domain -- hope Vercel serves you well. A little disappointing about the lack of easy redirecting so far. https://web.archive.org/web/20250219111210/https://andysblog.uk/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250219111210/https://andysblog... https://web.archive.org/web/20250214201735/https://andysblog.uk/why-your-blog-post-didnt-go-viral/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250214201735/https://andysblog... Bearblog.dev no less.

mcint 2y ago
Well, simple guesses at migration don't help either. https://www.krayorn.com/posts/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://www.krayorn.com/posts/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://www.krayorn.com/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ https://www.krayorn.com/why-blog-if-nobody-reads-it/ Good luck with the personal blogging infrastructure, hobby horse of many a working developer. Good excuse to play with new systems.
- krayorn 2y ago
  Damn! I did not migrate anything, these two posts were from someone else's blog and they were up less than a week ago! Web link decay strikes again, I'll check if I can find where this person blog again, thanks for noticing.

rhizoma 2y ago

Never used it, but a more aggressive fitbit: https://shop.pavlok.com/ https://shop.pavlok.com/