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I'm not a car expert, but it seems like the really fun ones require a lot of expensive maintenance. I imagine it wouldn't be hard to rent them for the day/week

I'm not a car expert, but it seems like the really fun ones require a lot of expensive maintenance. I imagine it wouldn't be hard to rent them for the day/weekend from people who did buy them, but can't really afford them.

radley 2y ago
The "really fun ones" can often be pretty limited. How often do you need to go 0 to 60 super quick? Particularly when a Tesla minivan can do it faster? If you really want to try them, consider joining a car club. I found a "fun enough one" worked best for me, because it can be a daily driver.
- RandomBacon 2y ago
  fun ≠ utility I imagine part of the fun is probably also seeing, hearing, and feeling something different. And maybe trying to grab others' attentions. I'm just speculating, because I don't care for fancy or "fun" cars.
Etheryte 2y ago
The real fun ones are called motorcycles and they're way more affordable when you look at smiles per dollar.
- platz 2y ago
  But there's nowhere to put your coffee mug
  - RandomBacon 2y ago
    They make handlebar attachments for that, but good luck if the mug doesn't have a lid.
- lazyasciiart 2y ago
  Also it’s good for society to have a supply of organs for people who need transplants, and since so many people are unwilling to give up a kidney while living that takes a steady stream of abrupt deaths.
  - theshackleford 2y ago
    I mean this is certainly a take. Equally I’ve been riding since I was five and 35 years later I have all my organs so perhaps the future really isn’t set in stone.
    - wizzwizz4 2y ago
      That you're still here to write that comment is selection bias. (Also: riding since you're 5 suggests you're probably good at it, which is a different kind of selection bias.)
      - theshackleford 2y ago
        This is correct to be fair. I’m not sure I’m good at it though, just…realistic. I do know people who died riding, four of them over the years. A few more who had accidents, including a guy that was run over by a truck causing his leg to explode like a sausage. The cause was almost always the same, riding beyond their abilities. I’ve never had any illusions as to the fact that I’m not Valentino Rossi and I’m pretty sure this is why I survive. I drive exactly the same way, extremely defensive and within my abilities. I treat being in control of a vehicle with a level of seriousness I don’t see from most. If someone discusses motorcycling with me, and they can’t convince me they are going to approach it in much the same way, I advise against getting on one as heavily as I can. The very first person to die that I knew was an 18 year old work experience kid who took it up because me and my friend both rode and he thought it was cool, we were young ourselves still and encouraged it. He died on his first trip on a popular route for weekend riding, only a few corners in. From witness accounts he tried taking a corner at the same pace as the older more experienced dudes, entered with way too much speed and that was that. Dude was still on his learners, didn’t even make it to his full license :(
- achenet 2y ago
  motorcycles are also significantly more dangerous, regrettably. I used to be very into them when I was younger, and then having multiple friends get into motorcycle accidents kinda turned me off of them :/
  - Etheryte 2y ago
    A relative of mine runs a motorcycle school and that's what originally got me into it. While bikes are dangerous, a regrettably high percentage of the accidents are things that were completely avoidable if safe and defensive driving practices were used. In my subjective opinion it's a completely separate mindset you need to develop and the minimum required program simply does not come anywhere close to that. As the saying goes, on a bike it's only a matter of when you fall, not if, so all the gear all the time.
  - theshackleford 2y ago
    I had some friends, I say friends. They are dead because you can’t treat motorcycling like driving. You have to actually pay attention and not act like a tool if you want to live. I am able to pay attention and am not a tool, I am still alive. edit For context, in my country a not insignificant amount of motorcyclists will try and tell you the only thing dangerous about riding a motorcycle is car drivers, but the statistics simply do not show this. They show that the majority of incidents can be attributed to the motorcyclist. Yes, other drivers are heavily represented, just not to the levels of your average "I can do no wrong" motorcyclist would try to convince you of.
arielweisberg 2y ago
That's just an affordability question. A nice person from the dealer picks up the car from your house and then drops it back off when they are done. You just pay the bill. Granted I DIY it all just for entertainment.

radley 2y ago

The "really fun ones" can often be pretty limited. How often do you need to go 0 to 60 super quick? Particularly when a Tesla minivan can do it faster? If you really want to try them, consider joining a car club. I found a "fun enough one" worked best for me, because it can be a daily driver.

RandomBacon 2y ago
fun ≠ utility I imagine part of the fun is probably also seeing, hearing, and feeling something different. And maybe trying to grab others' attentions. I'm just speculating, because I don't care for fancy or "fun" cars.

Etheryte 2y ago

The real fun ones are called motorcycles and they're way more affordable when you look at smiles per dollar.

platz 2y ago
But there's nowhere to put your coffee mug
- RandomBacon 2y ago
  They make handlebar attachments for that, but good luck if the mug doesn't have a lid.
lazyasciiart 2y ago
Also it’s good for society to have a supply of organs for people who need transplants, and since so many people are unwilling to give up a kidney while living that takes a steady stream of abrupt deaths.
- theshackleford 2y ago
  I mean this is certainly a take. Equally I’ve been riding since I was five and 35 years later I have all my organs so perhaps the future really isn’t set in stone.
  - wizzwizz4 2y ago
    That you're still here to write that comment is selection bias. (Also: riding since you're 5 suggests you're probably good at it, which is a different kind of selection bias.)
    - theshackleford 2y ago
      This is correct to be fair. I’m not sure I’m good at it though, just…realistic. I do know people who died riding, four of them over the years. A few more who had accidents, including a guy that was run over by a truck causing his leg to explode like a sausage. The cause was almost always the same, riding beyond their abilities. I’ve never had any illusions as to the fact that I’m not Valentino Rossi and I’m pretty sure this is why I survive. I drive exactly the same way, extremely defensive and within my abilities. I treat being in control of a vehicle with a level of seriousness I don’t see from most. If someone discusses motorcycling with me, and they can’t convince me they are going to approach it in much the same way, I advise against getting on one as heavily as I can. The very first person to die that I knew was an 18 year old work experience kid who took it up because me and my friend both rode and he thought it was cool, we were young ourselves still and encouraged it. He died on his first trip on a popular route for weekend riding, only a few corners in. From witness accounts he tried taking a corner at the same pace as the older more experienced dudes, entered with way too much speed and that was that. Dude was still on his learners, didn’t even make it to his full license :(
achenet 2y ago
motorcycles are also significantly more dangerous, regrettably. I used to be very into them when I was younger, and then having multiple friends get into motorcycle accidents kinda turned me off of them :/
- Etheryte 2y ago
  A relative of mine runs a motorcycle school and that's what originally got me into it. While bikes are dangerous, a regrettably high percentage of the accidents are things that were completely avoidable if safe and defensive driving practices were used. In my subjective opinion it's a completely separate mindset you need to develop and the minimum required program simply does not come anywhere close to that. As the saying goes, on a bike it's only a matter of when you fall, not if, so all the gear all the time.
- theshackleford 2y ago
  I had some friends, I say friends. They are dead because you can’t treat motorcycling like driving. You have to actually pay attention and not act like a tool if you want to live. I am able to pay attention and am not a tool, I am still alive. edit For context, in my country a not insignificant amount of motorcyclists will try and tell you the only thing dangerous about riding a motorcycle is car drivers, but the statistics simply do not show this. They show that the majority of incidents can be attributed to the motorcyclist. Yes, other drivers are heavily represented, just not to the levels of your average "I can do no wrong" motorcyclist would try to convince you of.

arielweisberg 2y ago

That's just an affordability question. A nice person from the dealer picks up the car from your house and then drops it back off when they are done. You just pay the bill. Granted I DIY it all just for entertainment.