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What is the point of generating this low quality AI slop music, what real use case do you have in mind?

by tombot 2y ago

JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 2y ago
Some kind of Dadaist movement I guess. Listen to Breathe of Death, it’s hilarious and then you cry.
zaptrem 2y ago
For the consumer stuff: It's fun, and IMO that's enough. Not every song has to be peak artistic quality pushing the world forward, sometimes it's enough to bring a smile to a friend's face by making a song about them. If you think their art is slop you shouldn't have to listen to it (IMO Spotify et al should have an optional "no AI music" filter for now). For the API: I think this could be integrated into artists workflows in lots of ways we can't even imagine right now as it gets better. One example I gave above was generating transitions between songs.
- code_for_monkey 2y ago
  the reason a song from a friend makes you happy is directly related to the effort behind it, this is totally meaningless.
  - zaptrem 2y ago
    The reason anything makes anyone happy is completely subjective, as evidenced by the many people who have told us our app made them and/or their friends and family happy.
  - quantumspandex 2y ago
    that's just your opinion.
  - unraveller 2y ago
    You know that post card they sent you is not actually a photoshop-free picture taken by them. They just addressed it to, you should totally dump them from your life.
    - code_for_monkey 2y ago
      obtaining, addressing, and writing a message in a post card is the effort, not the picture.
patcon 2y ago
I made little gift songs for friends for awhile. It was nice and fun. Making a roadtrip theme song for friends on a vacation is way fun, and kinda locks in the moment I also used it when I was living in New Orleans to help a friend come up with a riff for a live set he had, which had some unusual constraints (only had a singer, drummer and trombone, but no others, in an echoey space). He used the generated song hook as inspiration for that nights' arrangement There's lots of stuff, and song of it supports artists who have tight timelines and want creative support
- dingnuts 2y ago
  There's so much real independent music out there that actually has meaning. I hope you didn't tell your friend you wrote the song, because if someone tricked me into listening to generated not-art and I found out afterwards, I would consider them a liar. What your friend did, using generation for inspiration for real music he creates is fine. But if someone gifted me an AI generated song I would ask why they didn't pay a few dollars -- honestly not much more -- to a real artist to do the same. Ten years ago a friend of mine did that, hired a real person, and it cost less than $20 to write a ditty. That's comparable to the cost in tokens for an AI except you could support a real human artist instead of megalomaniac Yarvinists Sam Altman and friends. And the song would have real meaning. You gave your friend a non-gift. The Let Me Google That For You of gifts. Honestly if one of my friends did that I'd wonder if they even like me.
  - code_for_monkey 2y ago
    The problem with AI music, and in fact AI in general, is that weve spent the last few decades aggressively attacking the idea that art should get paid for at all and yet people still do it, because they love it. So musicians work for pennies, and yet people still need to replace them with a machine. So even if you just pay someone else to make you a song, its not really any more expensive than this. Same with painting. What does this AI bring to the table, at all? It grosses me out. People on this site should go pick up a guitar and write a 3 chord song about someone, itll take you a day if that. Its not hard! Its fun!
bambinella 2y ago
What is slop music? What makes these tracks "slop"? https://sonauto.ai/song/942c0122-9358-4805-96c4-eb0537d97ca2 https://sonauto.ai/song/942c0122-9358-4805-96c4-eb0537d97ca2 https://sonauto.ai/song/ba87e490-19f0-47c5-acb0-83a3b57a90e9 https://sonauto.ai/song/ba87e490-19f0-47c5-acb0-83a3b57a90e9 https://sonauto.ai/song/2b217436-0876-49bc-8a9c-d5807e626962 https://sonauto.ai/song/2b217436-0876-49bc-8a9c-d5807e626962

What is the point of generating this low quality AI slop music, what real use case do you have in mind?

by tombot 2y ago

What is the point of generating this low quality AI slop music, what real use case do you have in mind?

JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 2y ago

Some kind of Dadaist movement I guess. Listen to Breathe of Death, it’s hilarious and then you cry.

zaptrem 2y ago

For the consumer stuff: It's fun, and IMO that's enough. Not every song has to be peak artistic quality pushing the world forward, sometimes it's enough to bring a smile to a friend's face by making a song about them. If you think their art is slop you shouldn't have to listen to it (IMO Spotify et al should have an optional "no AI music" filter for now). For the API: I think this could be integrated into artists workflows in lots of ways we can't even imagine right now as it gets better. One example I gave above was generating transitions between songs.

code_for_monkey 2y ago
the reason a song from a friend makes you happy is directly related to the effort behind it, this is totally meaningless.
- zaptrem 2y ago
  The reason anything makes anyone happy is completely subjective, as evidenced by the many people who have told us our app made them and/or their friends and family happy.
- quantumspandex 2y ago
  that's just your opinion.
- unraveller 2y ago
  You know that post card they sent you is not actually a photoshop-free picture taken by them. They just addressed it to, you should totally dump them from your life.
  - code_for_monkey 2y ago
    obtaining, addressing, and writing a message in a post card is the effort, not the picture.

patcon 2y ago

I made little gift songs for friends for awhile. It was nice and fun. Making a roadtrip theme song for friends on a vacation is way fun, and kinda locks in the moment I also used it when I was living in New Orleans to help a friend come up with a riff for a live set he had, which had some unusual constraints (only had a singer, drummer and trombone, but no others, in an echoey space). He used the generated song hook as inspiration for that nights' arrangement There's lots of stuff, and song of it supports artists who have tight timelines and want creative support

dingnuts 2y ago
There's so much real independent music out there that actually has meaning. I hope you didn't tell your friend you wrote the song, because if someone tricked me into listening to generated not-art and I found out afterwards, I would consider them a liar. What your friend did, using generation for inspiration for real music he creates is fine. But if someone gifted me an AI generated song I would ask why they didn't pay a few dollars -- honestly not much more -- to a real artist to do the same. Ten years ago a friend of mine did that, hired a real person, and it cost less than $20 to write a ditty. That's comparable to the cost in tokens for an AI except you could support a real human artist instead of megalomaniac Yarvinists Sam Altman and friends. And the song would have real meaning. You gave your friend a non-gift. The Let Me Google That For You of gifts. Honestly if one of my friends did that I'd wonder if they even like me.
- code_for_monkey 2y ago
  The problem with AI music, and in fact AI in general, is that weve spent the last few decades aggressively attacking the idea that art should get paid for at all and yet people still do it, because they love it. So musicians work for pennies, and yet people still need to replace them with a machine. So even if you just pay someone else to make you a song, its not really any more expensive than this. Same with painting. What does this AI bring to the table, at all? It grosses me out. People on this site should go pick up a guitar and write a 3 chord song about someone, itll take you a day if that. Its not hard! Its fun!

bambinella 2y ago

What is slop music? What makes these tracks "slop"? https://sonauto.ai/song/942c0122-9358-4805-96c4-eb0537d97ca2 https://sonauto.ai/song/942c0122-9358-4805-96c4-eb0537d97ca2 https://sonauto.ai/song/ba87e490-19f0-47c5-acb0-83a3b57a90e9 https://sonauto.ai/song/ba87e490-19f0-47c5-acb0-83a3b57a90e9 https://sonauto.ai/song/2b217436-0876-49bc-8a9c-d5807e626962 https://sonauto.ai/song/2b217436-0876-49bc-8a9c-d5807e626962