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Have been having the same thoughts lately, and always find myself asking that am I turning into a sour conservative who doesn't like progress. But no, there's

Have been having the same thoughts lately, and always find myself asking that am I turning into a sour conservative who doesn't like progress. But no, there's lots of progress I like, just increasing traffic (here traffic in airspace increases from zero to non-zero) is never something I like. Plus those drones are really loud, I wouldn't want to bother my neighbors by ordering with those.

palata 2y ago
The thing is, somehow we all got convinced that "progress" means "profitable stuff". BigTech was not working on AR headsets because they wanted to improve our quality of life, but precisely because they want to make profit. They were aiming at "the next smartphone". SpaceX is not trying to improve our quality of life; they want to make profit by commercialising space. "Saving the species by going to mars" is completely absurd. There is a lot of progress to be done to save the species, but SpaceX is rather a negative in that sense. There is a lot of progress that can be done to improve our life (mostly to minimise the problems coming from climate change and the current mass extinction we're already observing). It's just that this progress doesn't make money. I love progress. I hate profit hidden in fake progress claims.
antisthenes 2y ago
> Have been having the same thoughts lately, and always find myself asking that am I turning into a sour conservative who doesn't like progress. Unless progress involves some positive change for all parties involved, is it really progress? Change oftentimes isn't progress.
- walls 2y ago
  By this metric, the abolition of slavery wasn't really progress.
  - lesuorac 2y ago
    Global GDP is way up since the Europeans started abolition so everybody is ahead.
lm28469 2y ago
> always find myself asking that am I turning into a sour conservative who doesn't like progress You have every reason in the world to be critical of the version9s) of "progress" we're being served by a few billionaires who control medias and dip in politics more and more. Something being new doesn't automatically means "progress", and in case of workers or social progress it often means the opposite.

palata 2y ago

The thing is, somehow we all got convinced that "progress" means "profitable stuff". BigTech was not working on AR headsets because they wanted to improve our quality of life, but precisely because they want to make profit. They were aiming at "the next smartphone". SpaceX is not trying to improve our quality of life; they want to make profit by commercialising space. "Saving the species by going to mars" is completely absurd. There is a lot of progress to be done to save the species, but SpaceX is rather a negative in that sense. There is a lot of progress that can be done to improve our life (mostly to minimise the problems coming from climate change and the current mass extinction we're already observing). It's just that this progress doesn't make money. I love progress. I hate profit hidden in fake progress claims.

antisthenes 2y ago

> Have been having the same thoughts lately, and always find myself asking that am I turning into a sour conservative who doesn't like progress. Unless progress involves some positive change for all parties involved, is it really progress? Change oftentimes isn't progress.

walls 2y ago
By this metric, the abolition of slavery wasn't really progress.
- lesuorac 2y ago
  Global GDP is way up since the Europeans started abolition so everybody is ahead.

lm28469 2y ago

> always find myself asking that am I turning into a sour conservative who doesn't like progress You have every reason in the world to be critical of the version9s) of "progress" we're being served by a few billionaires who control medias and dip in politics more and more. Something being new doesn't automatically means "progress", and in case of workers or social progress it often means the opposite.