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What new OS has the potential to have a foothold?

mrcode007 2y ago
The new OS that doesn’t exist yet. Linux is starting to show its age, dominated by special interest groups and with the upcoming C+Rust contention it’s a perfect breeding ground for the competitor to enter the scene. Best idea likely not to come from corporate
figassis 2y ago
I would say a Unix OS that can leverage existing Unix/linux tools like OSX, but more open than, and with real UX effort, native UI, not the gnome/kde, whatever stuff. Or at least something that has a Linux subsystem like windows does.
nradov 2y ago
A new OS to replace the incumbents will only be possible in conjunction with a disruptive innovation in hardware. The device driver issue makes it effectively impossible to build a new OS for PCs, tablets, or smartphones. We don't know what the next disruptive hardware form factor will look like yet: a lot of people are betting big on AR/VR goggles but it could be something else totally unexpected.
fsflover 2y ago
Such OS should be more secure than Linux, yet it should be able to run practically all Linux apps (and ideally Windows apps, too). It should be FLOSS with a good UI and a serious developer team. Such OS exists: https://qubes-os.org https://qubes-os.org. My daily driver, can't recommend it enough.
- hollerith 2y ago
  I like Qubes, but it is just multiple Linux installs running in VMs. Also it depends on Xen and an X server, both of which are not long for this world.
  - fsflover 2y ago
    > just multiple Linux installs "Just" is doing a lot of work here. There is no OS more secure than Qubes, judging by the number and severity of Qubes security bulletins: https://www.qubes-os.org/security/qsb/ https://www.qubes-os.org/security/qsb/. You don't have to run Linux in Qubes. You can run OpenBSD [0], Windows [1] and more [2]. [0] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4551 https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4551 [1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/windows/ https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/windows/ [2] https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/packaged-mirage-firewall/32097 https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/packaged-mirage-firewall/32097 and https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/exotic-oses-which-i-tried-on-qubes/13835 https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/exotic-oses-which-i-tried-on-qu... > Also it depends on Xen https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/7051 https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/7051 > and an X server https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3366 https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3366

The new OS that doesn’t exist yet. Linux is starting to show its age, dominated by special interest groups and with the upcoming C+Rust contention it’s a perfect breeding ground for the competitor to enter the scene. Best idea likely not to come from corporate

figassis 2y ago

I would say a Unix OS that can leverage existing Unix/linux tools like OSX, but more open than, and with real UX effort, native UI, not the gnome/kde, whatever stuff. Or at least something that has a Linux subsystem like windows does.

nradov 2y ago

A new OS to replace the incumbents will only be possible in conjunction with a disruptive innovation in hardware. The device driver issue makes it effectively impossible to build a new OS for PCs, tablets, or smartphones. We don't know what the next disruptive hardware form factor will look like yet: a lot of people are betting big on AR/VR goggles but it could be something else totally unexpected.

fsflover 2y ago

Such OS should be more secure than Linux, yet it should be able to run practically all Linux apps (and ideally Windows apps, too). It should be FLOSS with a good UI and a serious developer team. Such OS exists: https://qubes-os.org https://qubes-os.org. My daily driver, can't recommend it enough.

hollerith 2y ago
I like Qubes, but it is just multiple Linux installs running in VMs. Also it depends on Xen and an X server, both of which are not long for this world.
- fsflover 2y ago
  > just multiple Linux installs "Just" is doing a lot of work here. There is no OS more secure than Qubes, judging by the number and severity of Qubes security bulletins: https://www.qubes-os.org/security/qsb/ https://www.qubes-os.org/security/qsb/. You don't have to run Linux in Qubes. You can run OpenBSD [0], Windows [1] and more [2]. [0] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4551 https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4551 [1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/windows/ https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/windows/ [2] https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/packaged-mirage-firewall/32097 https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/packaged-mirage-firewall/32097 and https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/exotic-oses-which-i-tried-on-qubes/13835 https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/exotic-oses-which-i-tried-on-qu... > Also it depends on Xen https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/7051 https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/7051 > and an X server https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3366 https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3366