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the level of malice towards like...the entire world displayed by Trump and Musk is just beyond comprehension. how did they become so sociopathic and why did Am

the level of malice towards like...the entire world displayed by Trump and Musk is just beyond comprehension. how did they become so sociopathic and why did Americans let them have the most powerful jobs in the world?

yardie 2y ago
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- bsenftner 2y ago
  As a well educated and literate American, I confirm: the majority of US citizens are either beat down or a sociopath, largely thanks to a completely failed educational system. We manufacture these morons.
  - cupcakecommons 2y ago
    you both can't be serious
    - yardie 2y ago
      Seriously done with excusing brutish behavior. After everything we have observed over the last 8 years why would I give this administration the benefit of the doubt? They’re shutting down this government until it is just the police and military left. And then what?
    - bsenftner 2y ago
      I realized we had a material and significant education problem back in the early 80's, and have been an alarmist about our manufacturing obedient fools for decades. Now we have a critical mass, and the nation is crumbling while large numbers just watch dumbfounded. Moronic? The end of the USA is here. For fucks sake, Fox News is #1 in the USA.
      - lesuorac 2y ago
        Fox News and "Mainstream Media" isn't that relevant anymore. Podcasts overtook them a long time ago; people like Joe Rogan are the new Mainstream Media. ex. https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/rvdcea/oc_joe_rogan_viewership_vs_mass_media_ratings_for/ https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/rvdcea/oc_joe_rog...
        bsenftner 2y ago
        As if that is any better, just as moronic as Fox.
- derbOac 2y ago
  I think you underestimate the role of misinformation. I don't think "all" saw it coming even though many or most did. I share your frustration with how someone could have voted for these criminals but I've also seen very well educated accomplished individuals — who are also not right wingers — essentially brainwashed into thinking Trump was a victim and his ramblings were meaningless showmanship or a media mudslinging campaign. I've also seen interviews with these people during the campaign, people who expected this to be like his last administration. Trump openly lied about Project 2025 and people who refuted those lies were accused of "TDS", etc in these outlets. Even relatively centrist outlets were accused of sanewashing him. You can be dismissive but I know people as I type this who are genuinely upset and feel betrayed by the GOP and Trump because they didn't believe they would do all this. Maybe it's a form of stupidity or weakness but the level of fraud and deception throughout cannot be forgotten. There's a reason for propaganda.
  - bsenftner 2y ago
    That is our failed education system, creating gullible fools. One may have a PhD in some technical field, but they can't identify a conman, they believe in "conservative values", go to church, self-identify with their political party, and believe their paster's excuses about that little girl.
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bloopernova 2y ago
They are being directed by putin to destroy the USA's influence and power in the world. trump, thiel, and musk also see how rich russia's oligarchs are, and want to replicate russia in the USA.
- derbOac 2y ago
  I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. It's a viable explanation. Russian state media were allowed into the Zelensky meeting while other traditional news orgs were not. The use of tariffs and customs against trading partners to shape general foreign policy, via a compromised president, as well as other things, is strongly reminiscent of Russian interference in Ukraine pre-2014. Even the Mueller report is best read as concluding there was obstruction of justice into the investigation. Thiel has openly discussed disappointment with democracy and advocated for autocracy, and his companies have celebrated the current state of things in shareholder meetings.
  - misiti3780 2y ago
    It’s being downvoted because it’s idiotic!
    - walls 2y ago
      What would it look like if it were true? What would be different from what is happening?
  - bloopernova 2y ago
    russian propagandists and useful idiots try to hide or dismiss discussions about it. russia owns trump. elon talks to putin regularly, and he was promised access to Ukrainian mineral wealth. The whole Panama canal, Canada, and Greenland sabre-rattling is so eventually russian oil tankers can traverse the world with impunity. russia is dividing and conquering. They still dream of being a superpower, instead of a failed mafia state with nuclear weapons.
    - 2y ago
TheAlchemist 2y ago
How ? One is a convicted felon and the other one openly stated that he's going to prison if said convicted felon is not elected president. WAKE UP AMERICA
Earw0rm 2y ago
Eggs were getting too expensive thanks to H5N1, so they thought they'd vote in a bunch of scientifically-illiterate antivax clowns. Think about it this way.. when tech folk got hooked up to mainline net access 24/7, it wasn't exactly good for us. Think 1970s cocaine consumption. When the rest of the population got Facebook, that's a refined and potent strain being sold into a population with no natural immunity or defensive mechanisms. Now it's 1990 and there's a crack dealer on every corner in poor neighborhoods. Those politicians who were at the wheel in 2008-10 must bear a share of the blame. They could see this coming, or should have done. There was far too much complacency about what was festering online and how easily it spread. Did none of our leaders hear about Gamergate in, what, 2015 and go, hang on we've got a BIG problem brewing here? Even GG wasn't really that much of a shock/surprise if you'd been paying attention since the mid 00's.
- goodluckchuck 2y ago
  Eggs were getting expensive due to an egg monopoly raising prices, according to the egg monopoly. The H5N1 was just the reason given to the public.
  - asdff 2y ago
    It's kind of interesting seeing this play out differently depending on your grocer. My grocer is a little bit "upscale" I guess where eggs were more or less always $6 for a dozen jumbos. All through this prices haven't budged, it's just a matter of whether the eggs are in stock or sold out already. However, you go to Ralphs, the ostensibly "working man's" store incomparison, large eggs there are pushing $10 now. Same city, another 5 minutes down the road.

yardie 2y ago

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bsenftner 2y ago
As a well educated and literate American, I confirm: the majority of US citizens are either beat down or a sociopath, largely thanks to a completely failed educational system. We manufacture these morons.
- cupcakecommons 2y ago
  you both can't be serious
  - yardie 2y ago
    Seriously done with excusing brutish behavior. After everything we have observed over the last 8 years why would I give this administration the benefit of the doubt? They’re shutting down this government until it is just the police and military left. And then what?
  - bsenftner 2y ago
    I realized we had a material and significant education problem back in the early 80's, and have been an alarmist about our manufacturing obedient fools for decades. Now we have a critical mass, and the nation is crumbling while large numbers just watch dumbfounded. Moronic? The end of the USA is here. For fucks sake, Fox News is #1 in the USA.
    - lesuorac 2y ago
      Fox News and "Mainstream Media" isn't that relevant anymore. Podcasts overtook them a long time ago; people like Joe Rogan are the new Mainstream Media. ex. https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/rvdcea/oc_joe_rogan_viewership_vs_mass_media_ratings_for/ https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/rvdcea/oc_joe_rog...
      - bsenftner 2y ago
        As if that is any better, just as moronic as Fox.
derbOac 2y ago
I think you underestimate the role of misinformation. I don't think "all" saw it coming even though many or most did. I share your frustration with how someone could have voted for these criminals but I've also seen very well educated accomplished individuals — who are also not right wingers — essentially brainwashed into thinking Trump was a victim and his ramblings were meaningless showmanship or a media mudslinging campaign. I've also seen interviews with these people during the campaign, people who expected this to be like his last administration. Trump openly lied about Project 2025 and people who refuted those lies were accused of "TDS", etc in these outlets. Even relatively centrist outlets were accused of sanewashing him. You can be dismissive but I know people as I type this who are genuinely upset and feel betrayed by the GOP and Trump because they didn't believe they would do all this. Maybe it's a form of stupidity or weakness but the level of fraud and deception throughout cannot be forgotten. There's a reason for propaganda.
- bsenftner 2y ago
  That is our failed education system, creating gullible fools. One may have a PhD in some technical field, but they can't identify a conman, they believe in "conservative values", go to church, self-identify with their political party, and believe their paster's excuses about that little girl.
- deleted 2y ago
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bloopernova 2y ago

They are being directed by putin to destroy the USA's influence and power in the world. trump, thiel, and musk also see how rich russia's oligarchs are, and want to replicate russia in the USA.

derbOac 2y ago
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. It's a viable explanation. Russian state media were allowed into the Zelensky meeting while other traditional news orgs were not. The use of tariffs and customs against trading partners to shape general foreign policy, via a compromised president, as well as other things, is strongly reminiscent of Russian interference in Ukraine pre-2014. Even the Mueller report is best read as concluding there was obstruction of justice into the investigation. Thiel has openly discussed disappointment with democracy and advocated for autocracy, and his companies have celebrated the current state of things in shareholder meetings.
- misiti3780 2y ago
  It’s being downvoted because it’s idiotic!
  - walls 2y ago
    What would it look like if it were true? What would be different from what is happening?
- bloopernova 2y ago
  russian propagandists and useful idiots try to hide or dismiss discussions about it. russia owns trump. elon talks to putin regularly, and he was promised access to Ukrainian mineral wealth. The whole Panama canal, Canada, and Greenland sabre-rattling is so eventually russian oil tankers can traverse the world with impunity. russia is dividing and conquering. They still dream of being a superpower, instead of a failed mafia state with nuclear weapons.
  - 2y ago

TheAlchemist 2y ago

How ? One is a convicted felon and the other one openly stated that he's going to prison if said convicted felon is not elected president. WAKE UP AMERICA

Earw0rm 2y ago

Eggs were getting too expensive thanks to H5N1, so they thought they'd vote in a bunch of scientifically-illiterate antivax clowns. Think about it this way.. when tech folk got hooked up to mainline net access 24/7, it wasn't exactly good for us. Think 1970s cocaine consumption. When the rest of the population got Facebook, that's a refined and potent strain being sold into a population with no natural immunity or defensive mechanisms. Now it's 1990 and there's a crack dealer on every corner in poor neighborhoods. Those politicians who were at the wheel in 2008-10 must bear a share of the blame. They could see this coming, or should have done. There was far too much complacency about what was festering online and how easily it spread. Did none of our leaders hear about Gamergate in, what, 2015 and go, hang on we've got a BIG problem brewing here? Even GG wasn't really that much of a shock/surprise if you'd been paying attention since the mid 00's.

goodluckchuck 2y ago
Eggs were getting expensive due to an egg monopoly raising prices, according to the egg monopoly. The H5N1 was just the reason given to the public.
- asdff 2y ago
  It's kind of interesting seeing this play out differently depending on your grocer. My grocer is a little bit "upscale" I guess where eggs were more or less always $6 for a dozen jumbos. All through this prices haven't budged, it's just a matter of whether the eggs are in stock or sold out already. However, you go to Ralphs, the ostensibly "working man's" store incomparison, large eggs there are pushing $10 now. Same city, another 5 minutes down the road.