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It looks like a nice design! I'd love to hear a bit more about what it offers over Django/Flask/FastAPI though! The examples look very similar to Fast API and

It looks like a nice design! I'd love to hear a bit more about what it offers over Django/Flask/FastAPI though! The examples look very similar to Fast API and the requests per second comparisons make Robyn look very speedy![0] I'm sure the developer has more of a vision than just "faster fast api" though - would love to hear more! [0] https://github.com/sparckles/robyn https://github.com/sparckles/robyn

vednig 2y ago
Especially over Flask and Django, Robyn additionally offers integrated websocket support along with many existing features like templating, logging etc.[1] Developer has been working on this project for a few years now, here is the updated roadmap, shared by the developer and maintainer of the project.[2] [1] https://robyn.tech/documentation/en https://robyn.tech/documentation/en [2] https://github.com/sparckles/Robyn/issues/1001 https://github.com/sparckles/Robyn/issues/1001
- eterps 2y ago
  So it's intended to be a "faster fast api"?
  - vednig 2y ago
    it's much faster for development and prototyping to production, because: - doesn't require any external ASGI in Prod - has in-built CORS - Rust runtime in my opinion
    - odie5533 2y ago
      - FastAPI doesn't require any external ASGI in prod either ever since they added the fastapi cli. - FastAPI has built-in CORS. Has for years. I don't remember it ever not having. I don't see how Robyn is faster for development and prototyping.
    - solarkraft 2y ago
      Since I do not program in Rust, I do not see how it brings any advantage for development.
- 7bit 2y ago
  You can't compare this to Django at all.
polotics 2y ago
would be nice to know from the author how this compares to granian
- vednig 2y ago
  Based on the [1] one of the obvious places where Robyn comes at top is in terms of latency of Websockets and OpenAPI Docs generation. I've tagged the author for a detailed response. [1] https://github.com/emmett-framework/granian https://github.com/emmett-framework/granian
- gi0baro-dev 2y ago
  Granian maintainer here. Can't speak for Robyn author, but in my opinion it's not a valid comparison. The only thing Granian and Robyn have in common is the usage of Rust and PyO3, but that would be like comparing two projects using Cython. Granian is just a server, and as such it is comparable to projects like uvicorn, Daphne, hypercorn, gunicorn, uwsgi. It can be used to run any WSGI or ASGI application out there. Robyn is a web framework, and thus it does a lot more than Granian, and as such it can be compared to other async first web frameworks, like starlette, litestar, sanic, quart, Emmett, blacksheep. If we're talking about performance then.. well it's still Python running the app code. There's no way to escape that. If we're talking about features, ergonomics, etc. then again, Granian is just a server, so there's not so much to talk about :)
the__alchemist 2y ago
It looks similar in concept to Flask and Fast API (Likely with a speed advantage), and duplicating their features it feasible. It is not comparable to Django.

vednig 2y ago

Especially over Flask and Django, Robyn additionally offers integrated websocket support along with many existing features like templating, logging etc.[1] Developer has been working on this project for a few years now, here is the updated roadmap, shared by the developer and maintainer of the project.[2] [1] https://robyn.tech/documentation/en https://robyn.tech/documentation/en [2] https://github.com/sparckles/Robyn/issues/1001 https://github.com/sparckles/Robyn/issues/1001

eterps 2y ago
So it's intended to be a "faster fast api"?
- vednig 2y ago
  it's much faster for development and prototyping to production, because: - doesn't require any external ASGI in Prod - has in-built CORS - Rust runtime in my opinion
  - odie5533 2y ago
    - FastAPI doesn't require any external ASGI in prod either ever since they added the fastapi cli. - FastAPI has built-in CORS. Has for years. I don't remember it ever not having. I don't see how Robyn is faster for development and prototyping.
  - solarkraft 2y ago
    Since I do not program in Rust, I do not see how it brings any advantage for development.
7bit 2y ago
You can't compare this to Django at all.

polotics 2y ago

would be nice to know from the author how this compares to granian

vednig 2y ago
Based on the [1] one of the obvious places where Robyn comes at top is in terms of latency of Websockets and OpenAPI Docs generation. I've tagged the author for a detailed response. [1] https://github.com/emmett-framework/granian https://github.com/emmett-framework/granian
gi0baro-dev 2y ago
Granian maintainer here. Can't speak for Robyn author, but in my opinion it's not a valid comparison. The only thing Granian and Robyn have in common is the usage of Rust and PyO3, but that would be like comparing two projects using Cython. Granian is just a server, and as such it is comparable to projects like uvicorn, Daphne, hypercorn, gunicorn, uwsgi. It can be used to run any WSGI or ASGI application out there. Robyn is a web framework, and thus it does a lot more than Granian, and as such it can be compared to other async first web frameworks, like starlette, litestar, sanic, quart, Emmett, blacksheep. If we're talking about performance then.. well it's still Python running the app code. There's no way to escape that. If we're talking about features, ergonomics, etc. then again, Granian is just a server, so there's not so much to talk about :)

the__alchemist 2y ago

It looks similar in concept to Flask and Fast API (Likely with a speed advantage), and duplicating their features it feasible. It is not comparable to Django.