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AI voice is an overwhelmingly harmful technology. It's biggest use will be to hurt people.

by kats 2y ago

valenterry 2y ago
Erm, no. Its biggest use will be... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs :-)))
meowface 2y ago
It will unfortunately undoubtedly be used for mass automation of scams but text AI (and pre-AI automation) have been used for that for many years as well. Doesn't really make sense to say "ok we should allow all forms of AI besides voice because of scams", I think. But yes, there needs to be some spreading of public awareness.
- paul7986 2y ago
  That's if you answer phone calls from numbers not already in your contacts. For me all such numbers go to voicemail and if the voice is of someone i know ill just call them directly. If you do any of the above you are looking to be scammed!
  - alcover 2y ago
    Oh yes ? The scambot will leave a distress message and a number in your voicemail, using the voice of a relative. You would know better but I guarantee old people will call the number and strike a convo with the virtual relative.
pmarreck 2y ago
Nope. Awareness will inoculate people. “Authenticating” someone via the mere sound of their voice was always broken, anyway… Ever see the great movie Sneakers (1992)?
- FranzFerdiNaN 2y ago
  Do you live in reality? Because that clearly isn’t happening.
  - pmarreck 2y ago
    And phones enable scams. So your idea is to… Abandon all telephony?? You should not judge a tool by the worst use someone can come up with it
    - kats 2y ago
      It's the most common use by far.
      - pmarreck 2y ago
        There's a bunch of youtubes that seem to use it, so there's that
EGreg 2y ago
Cue all the responses saying "it's already been possible to harm people, AI doesn't fundamentally change anything, nothing to worry about"
- hombre_fatal 2y ago
  Counter point: We were barely doing anything about it when bad actors were pwning people pre-AI, like with social media propaganda or romance scams. And if we still do nothing about it post-AI? Well, that is already the status quo, so caring now feels performative unless we're going to finally chit chat about solutions. The same could be said for the internet. "The internet can be used for bad" is an empty, trivial claim, not an insight that needs a standing ovation. The conversation we need is what to do about it. And the solutions need to be real ones, not "we need to put the cat back in the bag".
IshKebab 2y ago
Doubt it. Its biggest use will be voice assistants.
alcover 2y ago
I unfortunately agree with you. Old people with confusion/dementia, schizoid types, or very naive persons will fall for shattering scams. And the consequences on their grasp on reality will be terrible.

AI voice is an overwhelmingly harmful technology. It's biggest use will be to hurt people.

by kats 2y ago

AI voice is an overwhelmingly harmful technology. It's biggest use will be to hurt people.

Erm, no. Its biggest use will be... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs :-)))

meowface 2y ago

It will unfortunately undoubtedly be used for mass automation of scams but text AI (and pre-AI automation) have been used for that for many years as well. Doesn't really make sense to say "ok we should allow all forms of AI besides voice because of scams", I think. But yes, there needs to be some spreading of public awareness.

paul7986 2y ago
That's if you answer phone calls from numbers not already in your contacts. For me all such numbers go to voicemail and if the voice is of someone i know ill just call them directly. If you do any of the above you are looking to be scammed!
- alcover 2y ago
  Oh yes ? The scambot will leave a distress message and a number in your voicemail, using the voice of a relative. You would know better but I guarantee old people will call the number and strike a convo with the virtual relative.

pmarreck 2y ago

Nope. Awareness will inoculate people. “Authenticating” someone via the mere sound of their voice was always broken, anyway… Ever see the great movie Sneakers (1992)?

FranzFerdiNaN 2y ago
Do you live in reality? Because that clearly isn’t happening.
- pmarreck 2y ago
  And phones enable scams. So your idea is to… Abandon all telephony?? You should not judge a tool by the worst use someone can come up with it
  - kats 2y ago
    It's the most common use by far.
    - pmarreck 2y ago
      There's a bunch of youtubes that seem to use it, so there's that

EGreg 2y ago

Cue all the responses saying "it's already been possible to harm people, AI doesn't fundamentally change anything, nothing to worry about"

hombre_fatal 2y ago
Counter point: We were barely doing anything about it when bad actors were pwning people pre-AI, like with social media propaganda or romance scams. And if we still do nothing about it post-AI? Well, that is already the status quo, so caring now feels performative unless we're going to finally chit chat about solutions. The same could be said for the internet. "The internet can be used for bad" is an empty, trivial claim, not an insight that needs a standing ovation. The conversation we need is what to do about it. And the solutions need to be real ones, not "we need to put the cat back in the bag".

IshKebab 2y ago

Doubt it. Its biggest use will be voice assistants.

alcover 2y ago

I unfortunately agree with you. Old people with confusion/dementia, schizoid types, or very naive persons will fall for shattering scams. And the consequences on their grasp on reality will be terrible.