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$4600 on ebay for a 7/10nm xilinx versal. So is 130nm/40nm ASIC cheaper than $4600?
by genewitch 2y ago
$4600 on ebay for a 7/10nm xilinx versal. So is 130nm/40nm ASIC cheaper than $4600?
- pclmulqdq 2y agoA few sq mm at 40 nm is about $20k, and you can only configure it once. I think the Versal also gives you more useful gates at that size (thanks to block RAMs and hard multipliers).
- throwaway81523 2y agoWhat about power consumption?
- pclmulqdq 2y agoThe FPGA will have higher static power (running all the overheads) but probably lower dynamic power for the same design. 40 nm is old at this point for high-performance chips.
- kragen 2y agoThe static power might also depend on whether the FPGA is an SRAM type or a floating-gate type, I'd think. Does Lattice have any parts fabbed in relatively new processes?
- pclmulqdq 2y agoYou're right. Pretty much everything is SRAM now, though. Even the MAX 10 is an SRAM FPGA with a flash-backed storage memory.
- imtringued 2y agohttps://www.digikey.de/en/product-highlight/e/efinix/titanium-ti375c529-development-kit https://www.digikey.de/en/product-highlight/e/efinix/titaniu... Ok it's 14nm. Who cares.
- 15155 2y agoThis is a single chip. At scale, the ASIC is absolutely cheaper.
- throwaway3572 2y agoThat price is probably $4600 for one Xilinx Versal. For the MPW run you would get ~100 parts. When everything is said and done, and you pay for packaging etc., on a MPW run you'll likely pay something like $50K. So ~$500ea The eFabless price of $10K for a full run, including a packaged part, was an unparalleled deal.